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well hello hello welcome everybody this is the july the 15th |
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2021 edition of southern fried dnn meetup i'm glad |
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everybody's able to join us we got quite a few people coming into the meeting here and if you're watching |
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uh live thanks for attending and if you are going to be watching this after the fact then greetings wherever |
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you are in this fighting world um i am kind of pulling triple duty today |
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on this one because uh ryan moore who typically emcees the the |
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events here he is out on a scouting trip so ryan we miss you and i probably will not |
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do justice to the way that you run these things so forgive me for that um and clint patterson he's actually |
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involved in a client meeting right now and has a conflict uh isn't unable to join us here too so that being |
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said a little bit of housekeeping if there are things that are questions |
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while either i'm presenting or actually while daniel daniel's presenting later on i'll be monitoring the chat a little |
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bit better but while i'm presenting i may or may not see your chat so feel free to just interrupt |
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me as i'm presenting um we usually start out these meetings by thanking our sponsors and hopefully i |
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won't forget the right ones here but we do like to thank manage.com |
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for hosting the southern fried dnn.com website main thing that you're going to |
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get out here at this site is every month after the meetups we do a recap ryan does a great job at writing |
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up the recap so here's one from last month where will stroll our awareness leader i |
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think we'll just join just as well hello will um presented on being in awareness and |
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steve krantz been presented on ck editor magic so you can check out the recaps there |
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and of course watch the youtube videos that are posted out on the youtube |
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channel they're usually embedded into these articles so |
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i think someone will be kind of re-watching this after the fact and doing a recap of this one |
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as well but you can check out our youtube channel out there as well where all of the meetups |
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are posted after the fact |
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let's see um we've got also seems like i'm missing a sponsor here |
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[Music] yep i can't think of the one that i'm missing right now |
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but we have quite a few uh oh actually man deeps that's what it is man deeps i think we're using the his uh |
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live blog um module out here on the website so they were kind enough to grace us with a |
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license out there so thanks to them if you uh don't know about manage.com or mandeeps.com check them out and |
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manage.com hosting for dnn websites and manage i'm sorry mandeeps for various |
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extensions that work on dna platform and evoke |
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let's get into a little bit of announcements in the community of course always be |
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attuned to what's going on out on the dnacommunity.org website there's a lot of resources out here |
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for you i've highlighted just a few blogs that have been posted recently |
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out here and one from clint patterson recently that was talking about github |
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sponsors and if you know a lot of you may not know about github sponsors but it's a great way |
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um through github to sponsor various developers that are in the |
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community or i mean i guess it doesn't have to be a developer any contributor of any sort |
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uh that is contributing to projects being able to they launched a new feature that allows |
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you to do one-time uh gifts instead of being committed to a monthly |
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gift when they first launched that program it was you kind of had to commit to a |
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monthly contribution so i think a lot of people didn't didn't do didn't leverage that feature because you |
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know the the inability to do it one time and perhaps forgetting to uh cancel their monthly subscription |
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uh there but it's great because a lot of sponsors will configure their environment to be able to do an open |
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kind of one-time contribution but clint did a nice write-up out here explaining how it works |
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so if you don't know about that and you're looking to get some things done on your favorite open source project |
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including dn platform be sure to check it out most of the developers i think in our community |
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have sponsor pages out there and you can just check that out i think |
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you can go to github.com forward slash the username of the developer |
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and sponsors or i may have that backward is it slash sponsors slash the username it's one of those two |
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but if you go to their profile page usually if they have sponsorships configured you'll be able to get to it |
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right from their main profile page as well this was another fairly big announcement |
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recently that thanks to the efforts of a few in our community was able to work with |
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cantaris who has now donated polydeploy |
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uh to the community um or i should just say really the stewardship of the project has really been |
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turned over um they launched this open source project i think |
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maybe it was like three years ago at a dnn summit and it caught on really great but it's a |
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solution that allows you to install multiple extensions within dnn |
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all at one time with only one app pull recycle as a part of the process and you can do |
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that through a user interface as well as doing that through |
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any kind of continuous integration or continuous delivery tools like github actions or devops but the project |
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over the years has has evolved a bit and you know it when a project's this big and and |
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this complicated sometimes it's hard for the original company to maintain and keep up with it so |
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they have graciously turned that over to the get-go um organization of the indian community |
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and so the plans here mitch sellers outlines in this article that what the plan really is to |
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get that project up to a point to where um hopefully ultimately it can be rolled into the base offering for dnn platforms |
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so that's an exciting one there so check that one out |
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another one recently by stefan compass about the ck editor so i thought this was a nice segue to last month's |
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meetup about ck editor when steve krantzman presented on so much here it was a nice |
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uh article out here about how to use the easy image upload uh in the dnn ck |
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editor implementation one other i guess one of the other big |
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ones to announce is the release candidate for dnm platform 9.10.0 |
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you'll see that there is a release candidate 2 out here now and there's much to talk about really on |
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this release is i think it's going to be a great release with a bunch of nice new things in it so |
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be sure to check out the release notes out here as well as get involved in testing for the platform you can do |
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that in one of many ways you can come out to github here go to the releases and |
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download your install package or upgrade packages whatever it is that you're testing |
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you can also do this through mb quick site to make that a quick and easy process for you to install locally and |
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test so thanks to everybody that has contributed i think there are quite a few contributors for this month |
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and they're listed there so thanks to all of them for their awesome contributions |
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what have i missed have i missed anything that's worthy of highlighting in the community |
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that anybody has that i missed testing testing testing |
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one two three no i mean uh please do test drc |
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and report any issues it's absolutely a very very welcome task there was one issue |
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that i think got resolved already um the rc i think it wouldn't even install so it was kind of a build |
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process and thanks to brian bukes i was able to get that input in so it does pay off to report |
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these issues even if you're not 100 confident of what's causing it |
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still report it because somebody else may know what's going on there you can come out to the issues tab here |
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click on new issue and post that there |
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anything else that anybody would like to point out before we jump into the presentations for today |
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anybody working on any really cool little projects or big projects |
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and crickets everybody's on vacation that's right man they're following suit |
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after you brian you know going on holiday in the summer well let's jump into it um today we've |
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got two presenters uh one of which is myself so this is a bit awkward i'm going to introduce myself |
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hi me david poindexter yeah and then later daniel golatis will be |
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talking about ice cream i think he likes vanilla for some reason so he's going to tell us why he likes |
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vanilla but we'll jump right into it |
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and if something is not coming through or making sense hopefully my audio is okay here um |
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just let me know just chime in and if you have any questions along the way just let me know we'll have a |
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piece at the end here to uh to kind of allow some more questions and deeper |
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dive into some of the subject matter that that that you're interested in or want to know more about |
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but we'll make this pretty open-ended so um for those that don't know there |
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are uh four primary leaders i guess in the in the dna community right now |
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and um i am one of them i'm on the strategy side of things and |
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i my main role kind of in that is to kind of connect the dots between the |
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various leadership groups so awareness technology and development |
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and i think will stroll is here uh today from the awareness group so thanks for joining us will |
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um we we meet on a regular basis uh as a leadership team and there are some also some sub leaders |
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and other groups there and i'll go over some of that here a little bit as well but a little bit more |
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about me i am the ceo of envisionative we are creative |
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marketing and app development company based out of north carolina in the u.s of a um i mentioned i'm on |
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the leadership team and on the strategy on the board of directors for dna connect |
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and co-president of the southern fried dnn which we're in right now and you may also know me |
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from some of the other tools that are used within the ecosystem here you'll be quick site and various envy quick |
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uh products that are out there open source products and contact information down there below |
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so let's take a i i i find it very difficult to talk about |
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strategy you know without really evaluating our past and i think a few uh leaders have done |
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this recently talking about kind of where we used to be where we come from where we've |
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you know gone through and uh kind of where we are now so i'd like to take a little bit different approach to |
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this and put a little bit of a pictorial journey here together for you and i'll |
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get through this fairly quickly we'll get into the meat of things so when dnn kind of |
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first evolved as dot net nukes we all know it at the time i think it came out of a eye |
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by spy project that was kind of a best practices |
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project put together by microsoft and another company and and eventually our baseball workshop |
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devolved out of that and ultimately became net nuke um back in the days it was really kind of |
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the great frontier right it was what is this thing called asp.net |
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and how do we use that to build websites and portals back in time |
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with the terminology and you know have real content management features and |
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things like that so i mean it was like it was almost like a kid in a candy store you know it's like |
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wow there's this great land out here that we need to explore and you know try to figure out what in |
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the world this means for us and this technology's new and it's cool and |
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fun and let's just kind of jump out there and really explore and so it evolved into this |
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real exploration and establishment you know thing where there was this |
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group of people and ultimately that kind of kind of became the core team that worked on the the solution |
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and this was back before github obviously you know so open source back then meant something a |
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little different than it does now it's the same concepts but the actual collaboration of coding and |
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sharing things with each other was was a little different from a tooling standpoint back then but |
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it was great you know but this it was this exploration of what does it mean to be a content |
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management system and what is that what features does that involve and |
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like any you know new products a lot of times you get go down the path of a little bit of |
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feature this feature that we want to do this we want to do that and you start getting into a little bit of |
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what can sometimes lead to a feature bloat and so we had all the core modules that were |
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involved in the project you know like faqs want to be able to do an faq on the site want to be able to manage documents |
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on the site want to be able to manage links want to be able to have announcements and |
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you know it was really a lot of these different little features and those kind of became sub teams you know that would or |
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individuals that would maintain those modules you know within dnn |
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and i'm kind of sticking high level here but you know you you get it it was like let's figure out this cool new feature |
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and let's implement it and it becomes part of the product but there was also this |
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thing that was beyond the actual product itself it was like you know because dnn was extensible from |
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the get-go you know it was it was built on these ideas of extensibility you know and |
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being able to plug in your own solutions for things so there was a rich |
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ecosystem that evolved out of this i think how many he remembers snow |
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covered yeah i remember oh yeah having one of |
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the first few modules that were out there on snow covered and i missed it so much in fact for me that |
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was the i i had developed the oh i think i called it advanced html |
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editor or something like that you know and that was my claim to fame way back in the day |
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and you know put it out there on the store and was giving feedback to bryce snow you |
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know and his brother egan or egan right he yeah eagan i think it was |
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and uh great guys you know but they built this whole platform you know for selling extensions |
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and there was one kind of competitor in in that space but they kind of fizzled out and snow cover |
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kind of won the game right um but that really was a catalyst for |
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a great deal of e-commerce you know and and being able to start up companies |
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i mean some some of these vendors that are here today they got their start way back then you |
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know man deeps and um easy dnn solutions and uh dnn sharp and |
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you know some of these that we all know the names that's kind of when it all started was way back then they started |
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building their suite of modules and selling them so it was great it was |
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the the sky was the limit you could you know if you could dream it up and build it you know you could sell it and make a |
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good business out of it you know whether it's document management or a |
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blog module or whatever you know there was opportunity galore so |
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it was a fun time in exploring that you know in establishing new businesses is establishing the |
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platform itself and you know along the on the road though |
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when things start to grow to a certain point it begins to get a little bit more crazy |
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right you know especially for those that are behind the scenes on the project and |
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really kind of managing the project or stewarding projects i can only imagine some of the conversations sean walker must have had |
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back in the day is you know of well what do we do with this beast that's been you know created |
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and it's not like you have complete control but you kind of kind of do you know it was open source |
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but it was still there had been talks about where do we go you know from here as the core |
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team and you know eventually there were other people involved you know that were the |
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key players you know when it comes into the the platform itself and um they come to this point in the |
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river where they they got to make a decision who are we going to be where are we going to be when we grow up |
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you know and the choice is not always clear that left side of the river |
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looks pretty good over there but i mean the right side doesn't look too bad either it's got a few more rocks but |
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you know they both look pretty appealing and guess what you can't really see what's beyond the bend up there you know |
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you can only see so far on this and so decisions were made |
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and the project as a whole you know there's a decision to form a corporation.net new corporation |
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and we even have people here that were employees of done a new corporation back |
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in the day could probably tell us some incredible stories of all that but |
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there was decisions made you know to figure out how to build a business around this but yet still stay true to |
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the you know the whole philosophy of the open source there so what happens in the universe stays |
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indiana in court ah come on that's not true that's not true will you can share some stories with us |
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um so you know those choices were made right and um some of the choices were |
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where are we going to be purely open source are we going to go to more of a closed |
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source but make it freely available are we going to become i think i've heard the term |
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freemium kind of model you know where there's this free aspect of the product but there's also this |
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paid for aspect of the product and that's ultimately you know the decision that was |
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made and evolved into i think the first days was like dnn |
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professional right you know came out and uh eventually became |
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