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well hello hello hope everybody is doing well this is the let me see what month |
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are we in now is this October October the 20th or uh Southern |
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Fried DNN uh it's been a minute since we've been together uh and it's great to |
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see all the faces and uh placards on the on the zoom screen there uh from Jeremy |
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yeah um we uh I think it was last month and |
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maybe the previous month did we skip two uh there Ryan or was it just one that we |
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skipped we had to reschedule one and then we skipped one so they were pretty much |
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back to back yeah yeah so it's been a while it's great to see everybody again um I mean just because we haven't been |
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meeting doesn't mean that nothing has been going on in the DNA community so we've got all sorts of for sure uh |
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greatness to talk about tonight with the focus kind of being on uh a big release I mean it the numbers say that it's a |
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minor one but for all practical purposes it's a it's a major release |
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um so we're gonna try to do a little Deep dive into that tonight and kind of talk about some of the highlights of |
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that so let me uh take a second to share screen and we'll go into a few |
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probably shouldn't move that out of the way everybody able to see the uh Meetup page okay |
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yep you're in good shape excellent good deal then and I need to fix my windows |
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here just a little bit but um yeah so uh I guess we'll just kind of start out with a few |
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um Community type announcements here but it's kind of funny because the this uh I |
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I was gonna if Daniel vladis was on here I was going to give him a bit of credit I was up at his place |
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um for about uh three weeks or so in Canada and uh I was uh getting ready to publish |
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a Blog on the the testing for the 9.11 release and I started playing around I |
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was like I got to create a graphic for this you know I got to figure out kind of what doing I I had some ideas in my |
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head and everything and we were sitting there and this image was supposed to be used for another blog but um it was kind |
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of cool it's a compositive this is just a little bit of Side Story but a little little composite here of a concert and |
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people in it okay that's the perfect time to pay for |
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a concert yeah let me figure out who's who the feedback's coming from there uh let's |
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see okay okay I think I'm good there now |
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um yeah so uh but it was kind of cool because it was it's actually multiple images and Graphics so I kind of |
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composited together but it was really kind of neat the way it came out and uh DNN being the center stage there and |
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9.11 is pretty big release so it kind of warranted that kind of Epic uh type uh |
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type little thing there but I mean just a little Side Story so um I guess what is going on in the |
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community um one of the things that I have on my list and feel free to chime in if there's things that I miss here that uh |
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because there's been so much going on I guess we're kind of covering a lot from the last couple of months here but one |
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of the recent things I mean since we're in October let's talk a little bit about Oktoberfest |
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um usually uh I try to do a little bit more talking about this in the Indian Community but this is something that's |
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broader in the open source Community if you're not aware of it check out hacktoberfest.com |
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um it's sponsored by digitalocean and a few other sponsors like Docker and upright |
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um on this but it's it's really kind of grown into this the yearly thing where |
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um developers and you know people in the open source Community kind of come together they start contributing a |
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little more probably than normal and you get credits for doing open source work |
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and get a cool t-shirt I should have worn my t-shirt tonight I got one year that they did it was like my favorite |
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shirt because it's just so comfy um but uh yeah every year you either get a t-shirt or some swag stuff or some |
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planetary you know kind of whatever floats your boat on that but it's really fun um new be involved in any kind of Open |
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Source platform of course DNN can be one of those or some of the open source |
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Community modules or you know whatever you know is in that world but I encourage everybody to check this out |
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and take a little bit of time in October to see how you can contribute to uh to various projects out there you know even |
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if it's small type stuff I mean every every little bit help helps so it's uh really nice to be involved in |
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that one of the things that you'll probably notice like in the DNM platform |
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repo or some of the other dating Community modules will have a label on |
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some of the issues there that are like a help wanted label and any issue like |
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that or kind of like low hanging fruit and be less of a you know kind of a |
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learning curve to to be able to contribute in those areas so that's a quick way to kind of sort through some |
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of those issues and seeing if it's something that you kind of is up your alley to be able to to to contribute on |
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but a lot of the repos it's not just something specific to us but that they encourage using that particular issue |
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label across different repos so any project that you're following or a part |
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of maybe you're a user of a open source project that's out there outside of our community and you know want to kind of |
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look and see how you can help or you know you've always wanted that to do X or Y and go ahead and see if you can |
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help you know or at least help contribute to that that path but it's a neat little website they've got together |
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today um on this that I thought it was really kind of cool the registration process |
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and everything they seem to outdo themselves every single year a lot of fun |
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um is anybody uh had any good hacktober story uh is out there so far I personally have |
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not done Squad as far as contributing yet but it is on my list for this |
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weekend to try to spend some time has anybody had any uh um stories they want to share about their involvement |
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no pressure no pressure um first I've first I've heard of it oh |
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really it's it's really I mean this is something I've been I look forward to when it gets close to October I'm like |
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gonna start geeking out it's like I mean you're either of course or you're not right you know but it's kind of neat to |
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have a focused month you know of where I don't know it's just motivated awareness |
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of Open Source initiatives and so forth and and you know other people are are |
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contributing at the same time so it kind of energizes you exactly exactly I just like the retrographics on their |
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website it's very retro and you know are scrolling Marquee and like uh 1980s Graphics very cool |
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reminds me of uh just a modern day kind of uh old school computer you know |
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sci-fi movie or something you know a hacking movie um I wonder if they got it from what was |
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that movie uh the uh uh War Games was that it yeah |
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[Laughter] but yeah when you when you uh register |
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out here of course your GitHub username gets associated with your activity and |
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so forth that's kind of how they how they how they track once you get involved they you can get little badges |
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for stuff and you know you can participate a little bit or a lot you know and reap the benefits they even |
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have events that are focused on hacktoberfest we if we were more organized and more available on our end |
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we would have some events that were focused completely on uh October Fest as well but um yeah a lot of fun and get a |
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cool t-shirt or plan a cool tree that would be awesome um one other thing is um and Ryan or |
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Mark or anybody's involved in the union Summit may want to mention this coming up because I know I haven't seen a whole |
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lot of social um messaging coming out about this but the the upcoming conference in uh |
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February of uh 2023 is set um to be another you know online event |
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and um the site's been updated out here to have all the appropriate information and |
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the early bird you might want to try to take advantage of that because it'll end |
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on December the 9th so we have a little bit of time but not a lot of time |
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um save yourself seventy dollars there if you want to be involved in that this year and I think they have a call for |
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speakers out as well um yeah let's see here conference |
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a little bit uh I'll mention a couple of things that |
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are uh exciting to me about uh what we're putting together for this DNN Summit uh so like David's mentioning uh |
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first off uh call for speakers is open and it closes faster than you might |
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think um so it closes here in the first weekend of November and that might as |
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well be tomorrow so we have a proud history in the DNA Community if everyone's submitting their sessions the |
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last day or maybe asking and nicely if they can submit them two days after it's |
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already expired so um if if anyone's listening who's in our usuals for presenting then I encourage |
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you to please try to get in there and do it early uh post your session Concepts you don't have to have them fully fled |
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fleshed out but if you can put together the outline and submit that then that |
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would be fantastic if you're not in the regulars and you haven't presented before but you you've got an idea of a |
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session some you know bit of DNN Corner that you really feel passionate about and that you enjoy teaching or training |
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about you see it rarely discussed um you know I I give my brother Dustin |
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it's a good example um he kind of bemoans that there aren't enough sessions for database focused DNN |
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database information at conventions like this and so my encouragement to him is |
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well make a session about databases let's talk about it let's talk about performance let's talk about positions |
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or database side so if you have some good ideas like that put together a session put it out there we'd love to |
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have you present something new to the audience of of all of us in the community who uh would love to see you |
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present a couple of other things about um the conference this year we are still |
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virtual this is the second year uh virtual in a row and uh one of the things that we are |
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working on our swag packages uh that is right there on the screen um we will have a t-shirt we will have a |
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few other items that we are sending out if you purchase your tickets in time |
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especially before the early bird then I personally will be shipping them out to |
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you so the idea is these are uh Creature Comforts for you in your office while |
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you are um attending the conference virtual so they are desktop items they are shirts |
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they are mugs and things like that for you to uh to enjoy and celebrate uh knowing that |
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you've got math package out to you um and you can enjoy it while you're at the conference virtually so swag |
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packages that is new for this year and uh me personally that's one things I enjoy about being in person with |
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everyone is a little Trotsky and swag and uh things like that to get some |
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sponsors uh number two item um mention is that |
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there is an ever-changing or evolving situation with recordings for videos |
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in that I think the very first year we use hop in there were some issues with the recordings the next time it worked |
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but for a limited time now we really have a good foundation for recordings so |
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your attendance at the event and and your ticket is going to be even more |
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valuable now at this point because you will be able to attend the sessions that you're part of but then you'll also be |
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able to go back and watch every session because they are all being recorded and will be presented so if you have to |
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convince someone that DNN summon is a great value for you and is a great benefit then this is the screen that |
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will give you those details because for sure you get extra benefits even more than in person because you can see every |
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single session |
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fantastic um Mark do you have anything to to add to |
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any of that or Ryan does an excellent job no I don't think I have anything to add thank you Ryan |
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awesome yeah well that's great um it's always good to to get together uh even |
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if it is virtual uh of course there's some elements of the virtual that I really love and and the fact that get to |
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talk to people that would probably have never shown up at a uh in-person event so that's that's really neat to to be |
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able to to run into folks that you don't normally get a chance to cross paths with so it's one of the big benefits of |
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the uh the virtual I am hoping to be able to submit some |
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sessions but that deadline is really soon I don't think anybody I mean who has actually heard about the call for |
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speakers yet because I have not until uh till I uh put it on the website |
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be nice to to get that posted out there because I got to fill and it won't be a whole lot of submissions uh so if you |
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know anyone that might be interested please spread the word um you know um and get it out and get the word out |
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on this because it'd be nice to get get a lot of submissions okay |
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um I I guess let me open it up for just a second to see if there's anything in |
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particular you know this happened in and around the DNA community over the last two months that you'd like to uh |
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highlight or or mention uh otherwise I'm gonna probably just jump right into the |
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uh to the DNN 911 review here hey I'll jump in and do my usual too |
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sexy um thing if you guys aren't paying attention the two sexy major |
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enhancements and revisions and Bug fixes have been absolutely amazing since they |
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uh came back from their little vacation they do every year so um there's a ton to learn I mean I'm |
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quite frankly I'm overwhelmed with it I'm having trouble adapting to all the new ways to do things that are obviously |
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better but um it's worth digging in and learning everything I've touched so far is amazing even just switching stuff |
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over so you're using image flow um there's benefits your cash sizes are |
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smaller things are operating faster um all kinds of stuff little things that |
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you don't notice the only thing that's lagging still is documentation there's quite a few things I want to learn and |
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there's still no Docs especially related to the whole new settings stack which I think is kind of |
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exciting but I barely touched it no docs not complaining very excited |
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so I guess the last May uh long-term support release was 7 |
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14 the I could speak 14.7.4 |
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um since then what are some of the some of the highlights that you've seen that you that interest you the most |
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the ones that are um they're basically the polishing and finishing of things like the formulas |
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are really becoming pretty useful in advance now you can actually do things |
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like read data uh they've even made the syntax that you used in c-sharp and |
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razor on the back end nearly identical so you can move stuff into your JavaScript in your formulas and |
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literally just Access Data the way you do in C sharp there's just amazing little things like that that are really |
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nice they've also uh mentioned image flow um what else is in there that I've been |
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playing with uh you've put me on the spot because I'm like all excited about this stuff but I |
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don't have good examples yeah sorry I didn't mean to put it on oh |
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if you're not using them the the the kits are just amazing being able to do |
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kit dot whatever those are fantastic if you haven't paid attention to that those are documented |
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well so start using those kits I'm not familiar with that what is what |
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is that Jeremy kids and he's bundled together all kinds of things you used to do into this thing |
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called a kit okay um let me see if I can find a link to share hold on a sec |
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and by the way while Jeremy's looking for that um there an idea came up I don't know |
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maybe three weeks or so ago of uh kind of doing a a meet up every once in a |
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while just just for two sexy users you know just to be able to kind of get together and share some things and it is |
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on my list to try to see if I can coordinate that so if you are interested |
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in that post something in the chat or in the DNN Community slack and just let |
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know your interest because like I know there's a few of us that are always talking about things uh too sexy and but |
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it'd be nice to know if there really is more interest than just that and then we can really kind of turn into that into a |
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you know a little more focused yeah that'd be great you know I'll be there |
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um so I posted the link in the chat so you can just see a quick example of how |
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the service kits work um so you can scroll down slightly there's an example right on screen of |
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turning you know three or four lines of code right there that was pretty common |
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for the last year and it's now just that oh Nate okay |
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and then if you scroll down further the other big one that I've actually used a lot on a recent project I've converted |
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all my uh toolbar stuff over to the toolbar Builder and basically for those of you that like um |
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um Razer Blade and building your HTML that way he's used the same style of |
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fluent API to build those toolbars and for the first time ever |
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it's actually easy and useful and it's kind of exciting |
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because I don't know if you guys have been paying attention but when you use toolbars and too sexy there's like four |
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different versions of the documentation over the years I heard someone laugh was that David yeah yeah and and like you so |
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I have code from 2018 to now that does the same thing and there's four |
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completely different versions and none of it you retain in your head but this toolbar Builder is very logical it's |
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much easier to learn and it's documented and I highly recommend paying attention to it so if you like to put those hover |
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buttons on your page now you have control of them properly so this is more for the quick edit stuff |
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or is this in replacement of tag yeah don't come this is the replay this is what to use |
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instead of tag toolbar oh okay yep have not even looked into this so yeah and |
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and and yep and it's um and what I'm really trying to say is besides the new stuff it's also |
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stabilizing quickly we've had a DOT 9 14.9 14.10 |
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um there's probably going to be a 14 11 or 12 or something soon because I think |
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David you saw he was asking or made a comment on one of the posts of yours from a while back about |
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[Music] um filling in the Page information do you remember that one yeah yeah |
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that one I I need that because well I have a bunch of reasons for wanting that I hope he does something with it yeah |
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we've started using okay enough too sexy stuff for one Meetup no that's cool |
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though um can I ask can I ask one quick question did all this neat stuff that's |
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coming out was too sexy and I was just wondering when you've developed stuff with the old versions of the content |
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stuff does it all end up getting messed up |
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I would say they've done a great job I have upgraded all the way to 13. |
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whatever on my oldest big project that has a lot of content app stuff and |
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nothing has broken um I I freely admit I'm afraid to take |
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that project up to version 14 but I do plan to do it in a sandbox sometime before the end of the year and make sure |
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but in general they have done a really good job keeping old stuff working and |
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part of it has to do with the way that they do uh their razor pages and the includes |
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and the usings and inherits at the top of your file so to pick up for example the version 14 |
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stuff you're going to switch your what is it you're using from Razer 12 to |
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Razer 14. and because of that the old stuff |
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doesn't break and I'm sure somewhere down the road he's going to eventually turn off the old compatibility things |
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but um it'll be a while before then and it'll be a big announcement when it happens so in general uh they've done a |
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really good job not breaking things not perfect I can't actually tell you there is one thing that broke in the content |
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app somewhere around 10.20 or 10.21 and you had to rewrite |
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some code but that's the only glaring one that happened yeah because it I agree with you that |
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there's so many different versions of things when you look at what you've done and you look back at what the heck have I done if I could consolidate everything |
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in a mod sort of the most very modern approach that make life so much easier |
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yeah I look at my old code and I'm like God I want to use all the new stuff to do that but the client isn't going to |
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pay me to just rewrite it to make it nice yeah |
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yeah we uh we don't really use the content app ever anymore but um I can tell you that we've upgraded |
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every client site that we have controller or that thing two seven or |
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14.7.4 and have had no problems whatsoever |
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yeah similar experience here all all of the upgrades have been great |
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yeah I'm looking forward to looking into some of this newer stuff uh Jeremy thanks for highlighting this because you're right there's been so many |
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changes it's almost uh almost mind-boggling uh to see how fast things are evolving which is good and it's bad |
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right you know it's good and the sense of this evolving but it's like who reminds me of like the angular world or |
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something you know or the react World it's just changing like the wind so uh |
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thanks for highlighting that yeah are there any other activity in the community that anybody would like to |
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highlight Now's the Time I think we should uh |
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compliment the guys that do DNN backup on how quickly and ahead of time they fixed their problem uh that was going to |
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happen with DNN 911 oh that's true yeah you're talking about the evativa stuff |
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yeah yeah what the problem what's going to happen you |
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um something about David can describe it better but they hadn't registered dll the right way or something yeah it was |
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just a myth that they were using to instantiate something was a bit |
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I mean a lot of people do it but not really yeah right right um and they were able to what was it |
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that Newton yes |
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it's okay then I know what you're talking about it's always it's always Newton soft every time I've had a |
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problem 90 of the time it's Newton's Law I agree yeah good deal good job congratulations |
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uh evening yeah yeah thank you appreciate it yeah I'm glad a lot of the |
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vendors are paying attention you know to what's going on and and all that um for the most part everybody was you |
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know all the major ones were were at least aware of things going on and 9 11 was able to get things uh there could be |
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some few lingering things here or there but uh that I haven't seen anything major |
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I could also add that it's also nice to say 911 out loud and not you know get |
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that instant depression and instead have something positive to talk about |
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you just you just stole my stole my thunder yeah actually going to say I'm sorry |
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no he said it about six times and I was thinking the same thing that we thought positive things |
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for 9 11 instead of uh not positive so that's and on that note let's transition |
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to the main topic yeah I mean does anybody have anything else uh that that's worthy of uh no |
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mentioning here mention here I know there's always a lot of stuff |
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going on so it's uh uh hard to keep up with everything all the time so |
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I admittedly have been kind of buried in work World for for a while now and not |
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paying a whole lot of attention other than with 911 stuff so I guess we'll uh go on going into |
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this um what I'm going to use here is really the blog post that I put out here |
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for testing kind of as a guide because it is actually a good Block it's right |
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on the DNN community.org under resources blogs and uh it's fairly recent |
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um when we were going through the release candidates but it's a good blog to to Really highlight the major areas |
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of focus for 9.11. um for those that don't know I mean most |
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of the the effort around 9.11.0 release has been to |
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finally really I mean like really get rid of telrick |
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um in the sense of when you do a clean install of 9.11.0 now |
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you will have no traces whatsoever of delrick this is a good thing |
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um so that's the first time we've been able to say that and that's really the reason why |
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um semantically speaking this probably should have been a 10.0.0 release but |
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for a plethora of reasons it was It was decided to kind of break semantic |
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version you know a bit on this and and go with a 9.11.0 release so that we |
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could really really get there quicker um in in some ways and also to avoid a |
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bit of can't avoid every bit of confusion but it would have been kind of tough doing a |
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10.0.0 release and then turning right back around and doing an 11.0.0 release |
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um so quickly um a lot of larger organizations are slower to move on the upgrades so |
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um there was a really a desire to incentivize the upgrade even more so because of the security aspects of |
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things so a lot of the activity around this was really about the removal of telrick now there's |
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a lot of benefit that came besides that um but that was really the focus area |
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and a lot of other things just kind of filtered in as that time period was happening it was a a big effort |
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um for a lot of this and it seems maybe from an outsider looking in the |
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removal Hotel Rick should be fairly straightforward and simple and |
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I get it you know um but it was so deeply rooted in DNN |
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how long have we been hearing that oh you know this gets rid of Dell Rick here or this gets rid of telework here they |
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were little Snippets you know in areas where it was sort of removed it just really wasn't really removed you know it |
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was just partially removed um and that's happened for years now |
| 30:12 |
um and this is the first release that's really removing it so it's it's a great |
| 30:18 |
release from that standpoint by the way feel free to ask any questions as we go through here and I'll |
| 30:24 |
try to do my best to answer them um at some point I'm hoping that Daniel bilatus will be able to join as well |
| 30:30 |
because uh he was supposed to be my right hand man on this and uh kind of backed me up where I |
| 30:35 |
fumble um through this because he obviously knows a lot about some of the more inner workings of |
| 30:42 |
things so um I guess one of the one of the biggest areas that needed attention in order to |
| 30:50 |
do the 9.11 release and really remove the biggest dependency that we had on |
| 30:57 |
telework was in the area of the digital asset manager so on that it the core |
| 31:05 |
feature itself was totally dependent on Teller it controls so that had to be |
| 31:12 |
Rewritten from scratch well you might be saying well it kind of |
| 31:17 |
was in 9.8 right well a little bit of the history here |
| 31:23 |
for those that are interested in it um DNA and Corp um contributed |
| 31:30 |
uh a partial yeah well I guess what what you could probably say this it was an early |
| 31:37 |
version of what eventually became the resource manager or whatever they call |
| 31:44 |
it file manager or asset manager and evoke um but it wasn't exactly that it was |
| 31:51 |
just one of the earlier versions of that they contributed that code down to us you know so they didn't have a vote |
| 31:56 |
specific stuff in it and that's what got |
| 32:01 |
built into a module eventually to so that with the 9.8.0 release |
| 32:10 |
you were able to optionally remove telework from your instances and you |
| 32:16 |
unless you've been under a rock you've probably seen those instructions and used them for the for the past while and |
| 32:24 |
trying to you know remove telework from your sites but um that's that's clearly documented and |
| 32:29 |
everything out on DNN docs for that and that was the first iteration of not |
| 32:37 |
using that module however if you ever use that to any degree |
| 32:43 |
especially on sites to have a lot of assets you know on them are a lot of folders and files |
| 32:49 |
um it it was clunky at best to actually use |
| 32:54 |
so it it was pretty obvious because of the technology |
| 33:00 |
stack that was used as well as the lacking in the user experience side of |
| 33:06 |
it that we really needed to rewrite it from scratch and not try to leverage |
| 33:14 |
um what was what was contributed to us so Daniel vilatus mostly and I |
| 33:21 |
contributed some on this we rewrote the resource manager using a |
| 33:28 |
very modern approach to two things and you'll probably see some cues in here |
| 33:33 |
from if you've dealt any with white OneDrive the experience in the browser you know with OneDrive a lot of |
| 33:41 |
the user experience was kind of inspired from that because it's fairly intuitive |
| 33:46 |
on a lot of this stuff so like right right click contextual menus you know |
| 33:51 |
when you're highlighting something you've selected a folder or selected a file there's an awareness and the |
| 33:58 |
toolbar up at the top changes and gives you the actions that are appropriate for |
| 34:03 |
whatever is selected or whatever you're doing the time excuse me |
| 34:09 |
so um this is Rewritten using web components that are just pure JavaScript |
| 34:16 |
HTML CSS so there's no dependencies on anything other than JavaScript and |
| 34:22 |
HTML and CSS which makes it incredibly awesome from a |
| 34:27 |
maintenance standpoint moving forward one of the challenges that we have in DNN is that with all the Persona of our |
| 34:36 |
modules and so forth and this was true also for the first rendition of the resource manager it's written in react |
| 34:43 |
with a lot of dependencies on that framework as well as the tooling that is |
| 34:48 |
used to to use that so we don't have any of that clutter in this there's no |
| 34:54 |
framework dependencies it's just pure we use a |
| 34:59 |
a tooling called stencil and this was created by the fine folks at ionic if |
| 35:07 |
you're in the mobile app development world it's a great platform for that kind of thing but they they created |
| 35:14 |
something called stencil that helps you create these web components so it's really an authoring tool if you will |
| 35:19 |
that follows similar reactive patterns like you would find and react but |
| 35:25 |
in the end of the day what's output from that is just a JavaScript file and then |
| 35:30 |
you consume the various components that you want to use so I know we've talked about this before |
| 35:38 |
but I'll mention it for those that have not been been here whenever we've talked about this but this is a project uh |
| 35:46 |
called DN elements and this was core to being able to even build the resource |
| 35:53 |
manager so without going into a ton of detail just know that there is an entire Library out here of these web components |
| 36:01 |
that were used to be able to build resource managers so it becomes a very good |
| 36:07 |
um a very good kind of case study if you will on how to use web components within |
| 36:13 |
DNN because anybody can use these elements from DNN elements and that will eventually be a part of DNN 11. I'm |
| 36:21 |
sorry den and 10 as well where you could consume them even easier within that |
| 36:26 |
context but all of these components got got built to be able to build |
| 36:32 |
applications like you see with the resource manager so you can use those |
| 36:37 |
components in your own custom modules and we've actually been using these for quite some time and and Custom |
| 36:46 |
um modules for DNN and really does help with the ongoing maintenance of those |
| 36:52 |
because upgrades and things like that become so trivial you know from a dependency and security standpoint |
| 36:59 |
because you can upgrade those security depend upon alerts you know really quick without having to worry about it |
| 37:05 |
breaking stuff and all that because there's just hardly any dependencies yeah |
| 37:11 |
so that's a little bit more of that I think we have a question oh okay yeah help me let me know about |
| 37:16 |
some of that stuff because I'm not able to watch that very well if you'd like yeah we can we can hold it if not but it |
| 37:21 |
was it was a good segue or a time period to mention um Helene was asking about the resource |
| 37:28 |
manager and asking if when you're doing the upgrade to 911 are you going to have |
| 37:33 |
that new resource manager um or do you have to install it as a module or take actions and I typed a |
| 37:40 |
little bit about the teleric the last few steps of the teleric removal process do you want to talk about that for just |
| 37:46 |
a moment yeah so if you do a clean install of 9.11.0 you're going to get |
| 37:52 |
the resource manager because there there is no digital asset manager and a clean install of 9.11.0 |
| 37:59 |
if you're upgrading an older site then and you'll we'll cover this here in just |
| 38:04 |
a little bit in more detail but there are basically three different scenarios that you can run into where you have |
| 38:10 |
telework present on your existing upgrade you know your your dis your existing instance and it's used then you |
| 38:18 |
will run through this scenario if you have telework but you're not |
| 38:24 |
using it then that will be another scenario for your upgrades and then |
| 38:29 |
finally if you don't have telework at all then you'll you'll just get basically like you would get in a clean |
| 38:35 |
install so there's really three different upgrade scenarios um that you will get slightly different |
| 38:40 |
experience but if you choose like in the case of the resource manager |
| 38:46 |
or the digital asset manager if you choose to remove dalrick |
| 38:54 |
like this situation where you've got teller presence but but it's not really used in other other modules and so forth |
| 39:01 |
it will replace the digital asset manager with resource |
| 39:06 |
manager the new resource manager so I hope that answers the question |
| 39:16 |
and I'll um I'll also do a demo of some of the stuff we heard in just a little bit too if we have a little bit of time |
| 39:22 |
on this so that this is obviously one of the biggest new features if you will on this and it |
| 39:29 |
really it takes into account a lot of the user feedback that we had on the original |
| 39:35 |
pass that the resource manager and you know like simple things like everything |
| 39:40 |
was like a big grid view before there was no list option to give a little bit |
| 39:45 |
lower profile the searching was clunky the Sorting wasn't existent |
| 39:51 |
um you know that kind of stuff a lot of that has been addressed in here um is it perfect no not by any means |
| 39:58 |
still a lot of room for improvement but we did achieve feature parity with what |
| 40:05 |
the digital asset manager had so that was the the real goal is that's the day |
| 40:12 |
one we've got to have the features that we had before so that we really can get rid of it |
| 40:17 |
um completely and not make it just optional |
| 40:23 |
so as I mentioned digital asset manager is just not a part of 9.11.0 on clean |
| 40:30 |
installs and so that's just something you want to |
| 40:35 |
keep in mind because it may lead to training needs you know either internally for your administrators or if |
| 40:41 |
you're um if you have clients that are that are using this feature and they have administrative access |
| 40:47 |
it is implemented as a module so just like you could do with digital |
| 40:54 |
asset manager you could put that module on a page instance that that you provide |
| 41:00 |
access to non-administrators right you know or certain security roles you can |
| 41:06 |
still do that with the new resource manager as well the other thing to some of the little |
| 41:12 |
more hidden less known features like using social groups and so forth that I'll also to |
| 41:19 |
our knowledge is all working uh just fine like you could do with a digital asset |
| 41:26 |
manager |
| 41:31 |
some other highlights um here and if I'm missing any questions let me know just feel free to chime in |
| 41:37 |
interrupt me um the install wizard has changed you know |
| 41:43 |
quite a bit in the sense that you know we're past the day and age where the default |
| 41:50 |
needs to be not SSL I mean every website needs SSL now so there's there's some |
| 41:56 |
new experience around that for the default configuration um so that's something to be aware of as |
| 42:03 |
well as whether or not pages are secured or not so there's some interesting logic |
| 42:10 |
that's that's in all this but the whole goal here was so that when you install |
| 42:15 |
DNN Now by default it is a secure installation |
| 42:24 |
um this also will save you a lot of time I know people that have been around for a while probably are using tricks like |
| 42:30 |
you know to quickly go in and do this via the database directly where you just set all your pages to secure you know |
| 42:37 |
just with a database script instead of you know have them do that but if you haven't been doing that or have been |
| 42:43 |
doing that manually Page by Page this will save you a ton of time because by default it will be set to secure so |
| 42:49 |
that's good to good to for that to be the case right out of the box |
| 42:55 |
um and should save you a bit of time on the configuration side of things for for SSL |
| 43:02 |
but it is something to be aware of because you may be maybe uh in a situation where oh my gosh you know it's |
| 43:09 |
not it's not working uh well maybe maybe it's because of the SSL right you know |
| 43:14 |
so I'm just kind of having an awareness of that so I would definitely test through those scenarios and make sure |
| 43:20 |
you're aware of how it is uh to be done um let's see the |
| 43:28 |
there's some changes that happened to the uh templates the default and the |
| 43:35 |
blank templates if you if you use those in DNN when you're when you're installing of course you have to use one |
| 43:41 |
or the other you know if you're building a completely new fresh site you're probably using the blank template but both those templates were updated to |
| 43:50 |
change a bit of the behavior out of box um for so long there was actually some |
| 43:56 |
you know security holes in essence the calls by default |
| 44:02 |
the user profile pages and activity feed you know the messages mainly my profile |
| 44:10 |
is where the security you know challenges come in but by default those were visible |
| 44:15 |
to all users whether or not you had registration turned on or not |
| 44:22 |
so now by default user registration is set to none by default so if you do need |
| 44:30 |
user registration you're going to have to go in and actually change that in size settings |
| 44:35 |
um and as well as all of the other related pages that are activity feed my |
| 44:41 |
profile the friends page and messages they will all by default be set to only |
| 44:47 |
be visible by registered users |
| 44:54 |
so now really with the upgrade scenarios we briefly talked about this a few minutes ago but there's really three |
| 45:00 |
scenarios that you're going to run into first of being the you have telework |
| 45:08 |
in the instance so you whether you tried to remove manually or not there's some left over something |
| 45:16 |
there you know that has telrick and it's actually being used somewhere |
| 45:23 |
this scenario here is probably the easiest one to probably misunderstand a |
| 45:28 |
bit um but we try to make it as clear as possible here but hopefully everybody |
| 45:35 |
can see this that's as big as that image is but I could probably zoom in a little bit more without pixels |
| 45:41 |
okay good um so you know in this case we're going from |
| 45:46 |
9.10.2 to 99.11 in in this case it was zero one this was just a show example |
| 45:52 |
what that might will look like in the future but it would do this in 9911.0 as well |
| 45:58 |
but there's some helpful information in the in the upgrade wizard here to let you know about the security Center you |
| 46:05 |
know all the bulletins because we're about oh let's see let's just pull that up |
| 46:10 |
because you may not be aware of where that is now but on the DNN community |
| 46:16 |
.org under resources and official DNN security Center this |
| 46:24 |
used to be on dnsoftware.com there is still a security Center out there but this is now the official one |
| 46:32 |
um there were I think 12 if I remember correctly |
| 46:38 |
um security bulletins that were published one two three four five six |
| 46:44 |
seven eight nine ten eleven twelve okay 14 of them |
| 46:50 |
that were that will apply to 9.10.1 and above |
| 46:58 |
so um right now and by the way this is a |
| 47:03 |
lot better now if you haven't seen it in a while there's a lot more detail associated with each security Bulletin |
| 47:09 |
but these are all the things that were that are addressed in 9.11. |
| 47:15 |
and it'll let you know which which versions were affected by this particular um |
| 47:21 |
security issue so now back over to the screenshot if I can get back to it |
| 47:27 |
um it'll quickly point you to that page so that you can really get more details about the security aspects and |
| 47:33 |
vulnerabilities that were in the version that you were you were on as well as a list of all the dlls that |
| 47:41 |
telrick was detected to have you know some level of dependency with |
| 47:47 |
but at this point there's nothing that's going to happen |
| 47:53 |
automatically because it's being used so the recommendation is go ahead and |
| 48:00 |
upgrade but know that you need to go through the manual teller removal steps |
| 48:05 |
um that have been published since 9.8.0 they still would apply in this situation |
| 48:10 |
so it's the same steps that you would want to to take |
| 48:15 |
through that but you know the the goal really would be you know if I were in |
| 48:23 |
issues I'd try my best to remove teller before the upgrade just to kind of avoid |
| 48:28 |
the scenario altogether that way you would know that you would know you'd have a little bit of a uh a warm fuzzy |
| 48:35 |
you know going through it that oh okay I've removed all the usages of |
| 48:40 |
it so like even if I had a custom module that you know I knew had telework in it and I went ahead and replaced it with |
| 48:46 |
something else or updated that module to not have telework anymore uh dependency then when I get to you know upgrade to |
| 48:55 |
911 I would run into probably this scenario you know where teleworks present but it's not used and then in |
| 49:02 |
this scenario make this look bigger um it's the same type messaging however |
| 49:09 |
in this situation you have the choice of going ahead and removing telrick you |
| 49:16 |
know letting DNN actually try to remove telework everywhere that it can right or |
| 49:21 |
just leave your site as is and you're you're accepting that risk so this would be a more preferred |
| 49:28 |
scenario than having a known usage of telework so it you know if I were in |
| 49:34 |
your shoes and I was in this scenario and I saw these lists that I would use this as a cue |
| 49:39 |
to go and try to figure out how to resolve those issues before it went any further |
| 49:47 |
usually you can tell by the dll name what it's what it belongs to you know what what module it's related to or what |
| 49:55 |
library it's related to and gives you at least a clue as to where to look and and |
| 50:00 |
kind of know where to go so if it's something custom then you can contact that that developer that did that or |
| 50:07 |
maybe it's a commercial module that you bought a long time ago that was that's still dependent on telling |
| 50:15 |
and then the last scenario kind of the ideal scenario I was like oh you've already removed telrick there's no |
| 50:21 |
knowledge the DNN has of any tolerant presence on here it's just a normal upgrade for you |
| 50:27 |
and you upgrade that and that's pretty straightforward |
| 50:34 |
so those are the changes to the upgrade Wizard and a lot of you know just say |
| 50:40 |
magic behind the scene is happening to try to detect everything that we could possibly think of right that could still |
| 50:48 |
be there and have a dependency on telework is it perfect no it's not perfect but |
| 50:54 |
it's pretty darn good um in in what it is um so you could still find scenarios |
| 51:00 |
where it wasn't detected and um you know but that that is usually going to be when |
| 51:08 |
um let's just say uh maybe you're using not the DNN version of telework but |
| 51:15 |
you're using some other you know like you're literally using the newer version of telework that has nothing to do with |
| 51:20 |
DNN and you know you might say well yeah I need that there I know that that's there and I'm okay with that that |
| 51:26 |
because it's up to date and it's not having the same |
| 51:32 |
security vulnerabilities or whatever but those are a little bit more Rogue |
| 51:38 |
scenarios edge cases I should say |
| 51:44 |
um any questions about the upgrade scenarios and kind of what you might |
| 51:49 |
would run into |
| 51:57 |
one thing that I will mention here you know like in in the blog mentioned that this is a good way to test it there's |
| 52:03 |
still two known DNA Community modules that are telework dependent and that's |
| 52:10 |
the FAQ and the events modules so you know if you wanted to do some local |
| 52:16 |
testing with this and kind of see these experiences just kind of know what to look for those are quick and easy |
| 52:23 |
modules to install so that you can kind of create these test scenarios and see how it handles it |
| 52:30 |
through that so that might be helpful to you foreign |
| 52:38 |
on which I'll just kind of I'm on gloss over just a little bit because I'm not intimately familiar with a lot of the |
| 52:44 |
stuff that happened here but I will say that in CK editor you'll want to check |
| 52:52 |
any plugins that you may have been using uh in that because you may find that |
| 52:57 |
they either don't exist there anymore because of they were removed for some security issue I think spell checker was |
| 53:04 |
one of these if I remember correctly um but you may just want to check if you |
| 53:11 |
've installed any kind of CK edits or plugins yourself that wasn't part of DNA |
| 53:17 |
core you may want to just check and make sure they work okay um in the because there were some updates that were made to the CK editor |
| 53:26 |
the provider associated with it |
| 53:33 |
Ryan was that you that you all had used some plugins or maybe I'm thinking of |
| 53:39 |
somebody else for sure yeah um I uh enjoy tricking out the CK editor |
| 53:45 |
um to add back in some of the plugins that used to be present and we had |
| 53:51 |
someone on 2021 maybe the end of 2020 came and gave us a good presentation on |
| 53:58 |
that I'm trying to recall who that was and uh that was my first thought was okay we'll go back and check on those |
| 54:04 |
things and and that'll be a post CNN 911 update uh that we can have a few months |
| 54:09 |
from now yeah some of the code Corrections some of the image media import |
| 54:16 |
um some of those were the main things that I relied on |
| 54:23 |
so far have you found out that most of those that you had worked with still work okay or are you seeing some issues |
| 54:31 |
haven't I actually have not paid attention at all so either they work just fine or um they're not in instances |
| 54:37 |
where I have installed those so I will make a point to go take a look that'd be |
| 54:42 |
cool to know I know a lot of people still still use CK very much you know a lot um but gosh I can't remember the |
| 54:49 |
last time we've actually used it uh many years ago |
| 54:55 |
uh let's see so next item is that um |
| 55:00 |
sharp ziplib which is a library that's been distributed with DNN for years |
| 55:08 |
for developers to be able to use as well as DN uses it or has in the past used it |
| 55:15 |
to either create Zips or unzip Zips you know like if you are uploading a zip to |
| 55:23 |
the digital asset manager for instance you could check the little box that says you know um |
| 55:29 |
extract the files after after they're uploaded that was used in behind the |
| 55:34 |
scenes the sharp zip lib or Live library I guess is what that's short for but |
| 55:41 |
that is no longer distributed with DNN and the main reason for that is that well one we don't we want to remove as |
| 55:48 |
many third-party dependencies as as we can but two now the.net framework has |
| 55:55 |
evolved enough to where there's core things in the framework to do the exact same tasks that previously sharp zip |
| 56:04 |
live had been used for so it's no no longer needed or used within DNN is |
| 56:12 |
starting in 9.11.0 but if you are a module developer and have used dnn's |
| 56:19 |
distribution of that to make references to you just want to be aware that you either now need to bring in your own |
| 56:26 |
dependency on that or just use the the new c-sharp |
| 56:32 |
[Music] apis to be able to do that or I should say asp.net framework apis |
| 56:42 |
um this is another big one as well um Newton's off the the bane of our |
| 56:47 |
existence right for so long uh so powerful so awesome but versioning with |
| 56:52 |
uh Newton's off has always been a challenge because everybody wants to depend on this one |
| 56:58 |
it has been updated to the latest version of Newton's soft Json which is |
| 57:03 |
13.0.1 um just because this one is so heavily used by |
| 57:10 |
um module developers both commercial and custom you just want to make sure that |
| 57:16 |
this update has not broken uh that and I think that if I remember correctly that |
| 57:24 |
was one thing that was happening with the evativa Jeremy on that for the |
| 57:29 |
backup module they were able to update because of the way they were pulling in |
| 57:34 |
that dependency it was directly from the Indian instead of using their own nuget package I think for it |
| 57:42 |
which is great that will help with upgrades and uninstallations and all kinds of things yep absolutely |
| 57:50 |
and as you can imagine uh the security analyzer has also had some improvements |
| 57:56 |
in it as it relates to telrick so now you get a few more sections uh or checks |
| 58:03 |
that happen in in the security analyzer to be able to note whether or not telework is |
| 58:09 |
installed and used or is installed and not used and this is the same logic |
| 58:16 |
essentially that is being used by the upgrade wizard so it made sense to also have that in the security analyzer so |
| 58:22 |
that after the fact you could still refer back to that and not not have to go through the upgrade process again |
| 58:28 |
just to know that as well as if telework is not installed at all so that's what |
| 58:33 |
you're going for right there get that not installed |
| 58:38 |
there are of course situations where we get it um maybe it's a custom module that's been |
| 58:45 |
installed and Incredibly complex and the cost of getting its telework dependency removed is is |
| 58:51 |
going to be you know astronomically it takes time but it's much |
| 58:56 |
attention that can be given to those kind of things it just cannot stress enough |
| 59:01 |
how important it is to have no of the old DNN telework |
| 59:07 |
on a website um you're just running way too too high of a risk with it even there whether |
| 59:14 |
it's used or not just its presence provides too many vulnerabilities |
| 59:22 |
so I you know I since I'm using this article I'll take the opportunity to to |
| 59:27 |
really just verbalize this to the testing that went on prior to this official release was incredible and uh |
| 59:35 |
if you were involved in that testing in any shape form or fashion thank you so much because the issues that came in how many release |
| 59:44 |
candidates do we actually have for this it was a lot um poor Daniel he was constantly kicking |
| 59:53 |
off a new uh build to put it out there for people to uh to see the changes and test those changes but so many people |
| 1:00:00 |
were able to uh to test scenarios out and and all that and it was really |
| 1:00:06 |
really helpful I believe we had more testing activity for this release than we've ever seen in the history of you |
| 1:00:13 |
know the community kind of running the platform side of things so thank you if you did that |
| 1:00:19 |
foreign any questions really about all this before I fire up an instance here and |
| 1:00:27 |
kind of take a tour through a few of these |
| 1:00:33 |
uh not really much conversation happening in chat uh we're talking a little bit about some of the things |
| 1:00:39 |
you've mentioned but uh I think you're in good shape did a good job of putting everybody to sleep right with my |
| 1:00:45 |
spoken voice and lullaby kind of what |
| 1:00:50 |
can you can you start over I dozed for a minute |
| 1:00:56 |
this is good stuff which part yeah the whole thing |
| 1:01:03 |
okay so I would watch a rerun of the resource manager just that part alone is |
| 1:01:08 |
the most beautiful thing ever that's good to hear Ryan here absolutely |
| 1:01:15 |
Daniel was a hill here we can proudly say that we have a fresh |
| 1:01:20 |
new resource manager and the old file manager um not the top Gap in the middle but the |
| 1:01:27 |
just the old file manager has been the same thing for so many years that it was in the running |
| 1:01:32 |
with the windows calculator as the oldest untouched item still shipping with a modern platform so um I'm very |
| 1:01:40 |
very excited to have that that's awesome so yeah about as useful as clippy the old one was |
| 1:01:49 |
well you know I I wish Daniel was here so I could really kind of uh say this with him him here |
| 1:01:56 |
but you know if next time you're talking to him really I don't think most people |
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realize how much work I'm into just this part of it alone and most of that was on |
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Daniel's shoulders and uh he just did an excellent job in my opinion |
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um through all of this and just be sure to thank him and better yet |
| 1:02:18 |
Heck if you could throw a few bucks at him on a GitHub sponsors that's that would be awesome too because I mean he |
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did it as a work of passion knowing that it was needed in DNN but it was no small feat um I don't know the actual number |
| 1:02:33 |
of hours there was a portion of that work that by the way I should mention again because uh maybe a lot of people |
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don't know this but um Mitch Sellers and our computer gurus was able to uh |
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sponsor or do a bounty uh for a portion of this you know what now that I'm |
| 1:02:52 |
thinking about it I am pretty sure I saw a new blog yep here it is a new blog |
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post uh buy them if you haven't seen this um I'll post |
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that in the chat but go take a look at it because they actually did a write-up |
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on this to you know just really talk about how you can how you can support |
| 1:03:18 |
open source without you know writing code and stuff you know and this is a situation where they had |
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clients that needed this Mitch knew how bad it was needed you know to be able to remove telework I mean there were just |
| 1:03:31 |
so many benefits to being able to sponsor this and this is not just about sponsoring just this one thing but it's |
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a good good read uh through here give you some good ideas on kind of how to be involved and and contributing |
| 1:03:45 |
for this but anyways back to kind of Daniel's you know the the level of work that went into this was you know far |
| 1:03:52 |
beyond that that Bounty and that's not to minimize the Bounty but it's just to to highlight how much work really went |
| 1:03:58 |
into this in the number of hours so be sure to at least thank him I try to every chance I get with that okay let me |
| 1:04:05 |
let me hush and uh go ahead and install DNN 911. so this would obviously be a |
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clean install um for this and uh hey David not to make |
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you Sidetrack but what is that cool application you're using somebody created this cool thing that |
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lets me do this in like a lesson we we love Envy quick site |
| 1:04:31 |
I you know I keep forgetting you know that a lot of people still don't know about it but it's like oh my |
| 1:04:36 |
gosh we use this like multiple times every day so you know it's paid for itself over and over again for us now |
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you know I didn't mention this because I didn't because I'm dumb but um |
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okay one thing that you're going to notice with 911 |
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is this is extremely fast um and and I'm not just blowing smoke |
| 1:05:00 |
here you're gonna see in a second I mean yeah this is a local instance but I guarantee you a 9.10.2 going through |
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this and then you turn around and do 911 if you put these side by side you're gonna see here it is ridiculously fast |
| 1:05:16 |
so let me just put a password in here and we oops I could type |
| 1:05:24 |
okay let me I'll just leave it out for now and then we'll just do |
| 1:05:30 |
so fried amen and here is where I was mentioning you know where you could you |
| 1:05:36 |
have the option of going ahead and making it secure right from the from the beginning now this is a local instance |
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so I'm I'm not wanting to do that because I'll have to jump through a few more Hoops to make that work |
| 1:05:47 |
um and I'll just use the default website now maybe quickside already has the database information uh put in here so |
| 1:05:53 |
we don't really have to do anything there so I'm going to click continue now watch this remember in the past you like |
| 1:05:59 |
sit and wait at 18 forever and forever now watch it make a a liar out of me |
| 1:06:05 |
wow okay so normally you challenge this is yeah wow normally this happens I I |
| 1:06:13 |
must be running something it may just be the live stream that's doing it now that's a lot faster yes but my normal |
| 1:06:19 |
install takes less than eight seconds wow that was a fast 19 |
| 1:06:26 |
yes 19 seconds all right so already you're seeing a lot but that |
| 1:06:34 |
normally for me when I do a cleaning still is eight seconds it's crazy it doesn't even do the |
| 1:06:40 |
hanging um whereas in a lot of the previous versions it just would hang on 18 while |
| 1:06:46 |
it does a lot of that turning the best thing that we can figure like it wasn't a specific |
| 1:06:52 |
initiative to um to make things better performant of course there's always an attention to |
| 1:06:59 |
that at a certain level with anything we do is performance but it wasn't like a you know oh we're trying to make this a |
| 1:07:06 |
lot faster the biggest thing that we can attribute this to is that pedapoco which |
| 1:07:11 |
is the underlying data access layer um you know per day right |
| 1:07:17 |
that was updated um with a minor version update |
| 1:07:24 |
and evidently there was quite a bit of performance Improvement in just that so that's uh kind of how we're |
| 1:07:31 |
how we're attributing a lot of it to it of course the removal of telework doesn't hurt either now this speed here |
| 1:07:37 |
is just uh IES kind of cycling up that's normal for it to be slow |
| 1:07:45 |
but yeah like just being able to to jump around and stuff in here you'll just see that it's just so so much faster |
| 1:07:52 |
um things that normally would just take a lot longer just or super fast |
| 1:07:58 |
screen what was that right I'm sorry I missed it I said hit the extension screen |
| 1:08:05 |
oh yeah sure boom yeah that's fast |
| 1:08:11 |
I'd also like to mention something that I'd like some backup on I've only got one site where I actually took the time |
| 1:08:17 |
to make notes and test this but running in IIs when you get your |
| 1:08:23 |
details on your um running instances I've noticed that a production running |
| 1:08:30 |
site that we've got upgraded is using at least 30 percent less memory footprint |
| 1:08:36 |
for per day I don't know what to attribute that to but it's noticeable |
| 1:08:42 |
interesting yeah one of the if anyone else knows one of the off the |
| 1:08:49 |
cuff uh things that Mitch had said was that you're gonna see performance and speed improvements here and they were |
| 1:08:56 |
into the the goal or the targets but you know with the update and cleanup of some of these different things that were |
| 1:09:01 |
involved you're going to see something like 80 speed and performance |
| 1:09:07 |
improvements yeah I have I have a site it was always had a memory footprint of over 500 Meg |
| 1:09:13 |
and it's easily floating in the high 300s now wow |
| 1:09:19 |
I don't know what to attribute it to but it's certainly the upgrade |
| 1:09:25 |
anyone else experiences that I'd like to hear why someday that makes me want to |
| 1:09:30 |
go and take a look at some of ours it was really it was a lot of curiosity for |
| 1:09:35 |
me I'm like hey this is cool what were you upgrading from Jeremy just out of curiosity what |
| 1:09:42 |
level uh uh 991 I think was where I was at |
| 1:09:48 |
and every single day that thing was gobbing at five or six hundred megabytes and um |
| 1:09:55 |
anyhow now it's sitting floating comfortably at 380 and sometimes it hits 400. |
| 1:10:01 |
nice well together |
| 1:10:07 |
I was just I probably should have prepared a little bit more but uh I was looking for some images here that I |
| 1:10:14 |
could uh show you kind of experience and I only have a few |
| 1:10:21 |
um so I I don't know how deep you guys want to go but uh just tell me if I start boring |
| 1:10:27 |
you to death but um some of the things that I was talking about just like you know depending on where you're at notice the toolbar as |
| 1:10:34 |
I'm you know doing different things and I just selected this you know or I right click on it |
| 1:10:40 |
um this matches this so depending on kind of what your preference is on how |
| 1:10:46 |
you like to work you've got multiple paths to the same end um you can now do multi-select |
| 1:10:53 |
with items um changes you know that's why people are |
| 1:11:00 |
you holding down the control key no I'm just clicking oh really yep so again a lot of these |
| 1:11:06 |
cues are from you know the the OneDrive experience so you can uh see a lot of |
| 1:11:12 |
parallels to there you know and being able to go noise that's that's good |
| 1:11:18 |
before you when you clicked on it it would automatically download the file on my end I want that I just want to select |
| 1:11:24 |
it yeah exactly perfect so you know things like moving files you know I can |
| 1:11:31 |
now move multiple files just like you could do with the other but when you move you could choose exactly where you wanted to go to |
| 1:11:37 |
um pretty web controls so now those files should be sitting in |
| 1:11:45 |
the root and there they are so now grab those and move them back to images |
| 1:11:51 |
and move and yes and now we're back into images so |
| 1:11:58 |
selecting it or being able to you know go into it this is one thing that you |
| 1:12:03 |
will probably run into that we have it on the radar you might be tempted to |
| 1:12:09 |
just double click on a folder and expect it to go into the folder it won't work that way right out of the box |
| 1:12:15 |
you have to actually select the folder over here so these are kind of your folder actions over here and this is |
| 1:12:21 |
what you see so you have access to see the folders but this is where you're just going to select them or you know do |
| 1:12:28 |
do actions on them um double click is not something you can |
| 1:12:33 |
enable we will but right now it does not do double click that was in the nice to |
| 1:12:39 |
have column instead of required column because if you remember correctly this didn't even like work this good you know |
| 1:12:46 |
in the other the the other experience hey could you sort something out for me I know that we've talked about the CK |
| 1:12:52 |
editor now can on upload of an image resize it that does not apply to this |
| 1:12:58 |
resource manager at this time right that's correct okay that'd be nice to have |
| 1:13:09 |
maybe paid support for new feature requests yeah there you go |
| 1:13:14 |
that is an interesting one uh let's see so like just being able to edit you know |
| 1:13:20 |
folders and files you get a similar experience it's just that now you're you're not dealing with the DNN pop-up |
| 1:13:27 |
model you know with jQuery UI you're dealing with just pure web components |
| 1:13:32 |
this could use a little bit of TLC as far as look and feel and the jumping around and things like that but the |
| 1:13:38 |
feature parity is there um rumors that Aaron is going to do a |
| 1:13:43 |
complete Tailwind version of this |
| 1:13:49 |
I knew that would make him come online |
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so you know just being able to rename things you know here is the same way that it was and the other you would change the name here |
| 1:14:01 |
um let's see uh cancel out of that what |
| 1:14:06 |
what else um I was hoping to to upload like a bunch of images uh I think I'm going to |
| 1:14:14 |
be on the edge here and I'm going to just try to put some images here that I have |
| 1:14:21 |
no idea what these images are they're screenshots of something so if you see something uh that is suspicious or not |
| 1:14:30 |
so great just ignore it I don't even know what's in here but I want to show a |
| 1:14:36 |
feature here so let's go into the images folder and I'm just going to |
| 1:14:41 |
um add let's see where was I at I've got an item selected so add or upload sorry |
| 1:14:47 |
upload so you've got this nice drag and drop experience here now so I can just drag those from uh from my Windows |
| 1:14:54 |
Explorer over to here you still have the extract but notice that every file had a progress bar like before once it gets |
| 1:15:01 |
processed they disappear so those got uploaded |
| 1:15:07 |
um the did I just mess it up because they shouldn't have they should have seen the complete |
| 1:15:13 |
huh I thought we changed that anyway they got uploaded there they all are now I'm going to do it again so that we get |
| 1:15:21 |
a bunch of files in here um so I got the chance to oh yeah so these |
| 1:15:27 |
already exist so I need to oh shoot I'm gonna have to rename these or something |
| 1:15:34 |
ah how can I do this um I don't want to overwrite |
| 1:15:44 |
yeah I was trying to think how I could do this really quick I wanted to get over like you know 100 images in there |
| 1:15:51 |
let me see if I can find some more here real quick so I don't have that problem |
| 1:15:56 |
um go you could select all and delete the ones up on the server and then do it |
| 1:16:03 |
again yeah but I really want that many files in there oh |
| 1:16:10 |
let me just find some other files here real quick give me just a second to look over here and see what's relatively safe |
| 1:16:16 |
for me to put up here let's see here I've got |
| 1:16:24 |
a bunch of images over here okay this will this will do it I've got a crap load of images |
| 1:16:30 |
all right let me do upload and I'm just going to drag them all in here |
| 1:16:40 |
oh there we go all right so yep as it gets done |
| 1:16:47 |
um that's something I'd like to improve but now we've got uh let's see let's go back to here so I can recap Okay so |
| 1:16:54 |
we've got a hundred we got 237 images here |
| 1:16:59 |
did you notice how fast that was and some of these are |
| 1:17:06 |
most of them are very large to three megabytes four megabytes |
| 1:17:13 |
that was pretty fast huh now you may be saying well okay so I get |
| 1:17:19 |
a thousand of them out here how fast is that going to be well now it says 381 because guess what just happened it lazy |
| 1:17:25 |
loaded as I'm scrolling down all those files |
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so if I go down to the bottom look it's pulling other ones in now we've got |
| 1:17:35 |
400 of them that looks like it's a little bug there to me but super fast so it only loads and |
| 1:17:43 |
shows the number of them that you're you know that you're needing at the moment but |
| 1:17:50 |
when you get to a certain spot on the page it will lazy load the rest of them so it's it's a lot more |
| 1:17:58 |
performance oriented than than before on this just super fast so like and also |
| 1:18:06 |
the search yeah see now I think it was in the process of still indexing those files because I uploaded so many of them |
| 1:18:13 |
so now the count is actually up to 1034 so now if I go down |
| 1:18:19 |
um we'll get more accurate numbers because I think d m was in the process yeah see how it is it's just it's |
| 1:18:26 |
loading 100 of them at a time right because I'm going down so now we got 1034 files loading just |
| 1:18:33 |
like that so it's pretty cool so if I wanted to look for something let's say uh |
| 1:18:39 |
2019 underscore something let's see what |
| 1:18:44 |
is it Dash something yeah so everything from January 2019 the |
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search is instantaneous as I'm typing you know to get to get down there so pretty neat |
| 1:19:00 |
um synchronization uh being able to sync just this folder or refresh the files |
| 1:19:05 |
that are in the folder or sync this folder in subfolders those work the exact same way that they worked before |
| 1:19:11 |
it's just that now they're in a nice little contextual menu there um being able to uh there's so much in |
| 1:19:19 |
here there's don't take too much time but uh it has an awareness of the file types as |
| 1:19:25 |
well and shows you an icon as well as it can now these are the old icons so that's one of the things we want to kind |
| 1:19:31 |
of improve the look and feel of it at some point to get a little bit a better more modern experience there but it's |
| 1:19:38 |
fantastic it even supports the different folder types you know like being able to use like Azure folder providers so if |
| 1:19:45 |
you if you did a connector over here and tied it into an Azure storage or some |
| 1:19:51 |
other you know like let's say you're using Eva tivo's DNN storage module and |
| 1:19:56 |
it's typed into AWS or whatever those are going to show up right over here like you would expect them to show up |
| 1:20:03 |
and be able to see those those folders just as well uh let's see Rudy said uh can can you |
| 1:20:12 |
also can you show the edit button yeah absolutely so um there's multiple edits uh there so |
| 1:20:19 |
like if I'm here selected on a folder there's an edit |
| 1:20:25 |
here and that's uh similar to what I showed before where you can set the |
| 1:20:30 |
permissions and change the name of the folder and get all the information associated with it there's also the edit |
| 1:20:36 |
for a file which is contextual or here and those result in the same thing so if |
| 1:20:41 |
I select this one go edit then you're going to get be able to change the name of the file which in this case is a |
| 1:20:46 |
crazy name you can update the title and description for that file so if it's being used you know as a as a link to |
| 1:20:54 |
the resource it would have that in there for the link click |
| 1:20:59 |
did that show what you wanted to see there |
| 1:21:06 |
if you edit the text file well I would have to upload a text file in order to see what happens when you have a text file but um it's the same experience |
| 1:21:14 |
um |
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so it's gonna be the same experience um file type doesn't have any real bearing on this one here it would just |
| 1:21:27 |
be the editing of the of the name of the file so it's not like you're literally editing the file in an editor |
| 1:21:34 |
um because that wasn't possible before either so |
| 1:21:41 |
download expected you know same same way as what you would see before deleting a |
| 1:21:47 |
file it'll prompt you if you're sure you want to delete um another thing is the expand you can |
| 1:21:54 |
change the size of this based on kind of your viewport and what you want to see it is where you can collapse that as |
| 1:22:01 |
well by just clicking it as well as there is a settings here and this is where you would be able to manage your |
| 1:22:07 |
different folder providers and add or remove those so if I had an Azure |
| 1:22:13 |
folder connector set up over here or connector setup for Azure then I could |
| 1:22:18 |
add a folder type of of that here and it would show up and now this one here is not using web components this is |
| 1:22:25 |
obviously the DNN jQuery UI based modal here that's one |
| 1:22:31 |
area that didn't get rebuilt completely so this is the exact same experience as you had before so if we were adding an |
| 1:22:38 |
Azure folder provider you can come in here and do that |
| 1:22:44 |
and those get a slightly different icon associated with them too so if it is a known folder type you'll get a an icon |
| 1:22:52 |
associated with that so for Azure you'll get the Azure logo on top of the folder and so forth |
| 1:23:04 |
and for the most part it is responsive um as well out of the box it is also accessible so |
| 1:23:13 |
if you were you know going through this and you want to use your I'm using my tab |
| 1:23:19 |
and I'll use my up arrow and my space bar to select it |
| 1:23:25 |
um all of that works just fine out of it um |
| 1:23:30 |
every every little feature of this is completely accessible |
| 1:23:37 |
um for that so doing all that with my keyboard |
| 1:23:47 |
so pretty cool stuff yeah you can download multiple files uh |
| 1:23:53 |
at the same time and there there was trying to double click that again that that one's going to drive me crazy but |
| 1:23:58 |
yeah oops sorry select multiple files oh no you can't I thought you could nope |
| 1:24:06 |
you can only download one file at a time that would be a nice uh Improvement |
| 1:24:12 |
there somebody should open an issue for that |
| 1:24:20 |
could you do that before download multiple files at once |
| 1:24:26 |
no you couldn't do that before okay no |
| 1:24:31 |
that seems like it would be simple but at the same time it probably isn't because you got to figure out like okay |
| 1:24:37 |
what does that mean is it a mole would it zip them up |
| 1:24:44 |
yeah because you only get really one dialogue per thing that you're downloading right so it might would lead |
| 1:24:50 |
to a clunky experience and for everybody that loves the grid |
| 1:24:57 |
view they're here foreign does anyone love the grid View |
| 1:25:03 |
it seems like that would be the instant first thing I click on is switch to list view no |
| 1:25:09 |
and you're not if I don't know what the image is yeah that's true it is a little |
| 1:25:15 |
helpful with images uh to be able to see what they are but |
| 1:25:20 |
if rocd like me you just put names that you know what they are but most people |
| 1:25:25 |
don't so it's actually in a way helpful I suppose I kind of like the previews |
| 1:25:34 |
I suppose it depends on how many files you have there too you know um that was a performance Nightmare Before |
| 1:25:41 |
um I'd say it's better now in this one um it still loads pretty fast group that |
| 1:25:46 |
you'll notice uh I went too far and it went crazy but |
| 1:25:52 |
yeah it's it's loaded all those so caught up yeah yeah it's what 1034 items there |
| 1:26:01 |
that's fantastic yes I think this helps solve a lot of |
| 1:26:07 |
the pain points and gets us you know to a telework free Union there were other areas that telework was |
| 1:26:14 |
being used but this was really the biggest area it was the last remaining mammoth in DNN that was relying on it |
| 1:26:21 |
that looks really nice David yes thank you Daniel |
| 1:26:28 |
I've seen a few issues already to to like be able to change the default size |
| 1:26:34 |
of this and stuff like that some things that would help you know if you've got a lot of files this is a little short for |
| 1:26:40 |
it especially if you've got a bigger monitor or something um those will be some nice little enhancements that honestly to do stuff |
| 1:26:48 |
like that becomes way less difficult in a solution like this |
| 1:26:54 |
compared to what we had before so it'll be it'll be nice don't be afraid to to |
| 1:26:59 |
post issues for things like that you know if you see a way that it could be improved then it's a lot easier to to |
| 1:27:06 |
work on it because it really goes back to getting elements and being able to change those elements to be able to |
| 1:27:12 |
support those features and so forth and then by default will just happen in here so it's nice |
| 1:27:23 |
that's really all I had on my list but I'm happy to dig into any other areas if |
| 1:27:28 |
anybody's interested I think that the uh star of the show The |
| 1:27:34 |
TNN 911 has a lot of nice things that we're looking forward to |
| 1:27:39 |
um file manager and some speed improvements are enough of a reason for me to |
| 1:27:46 |
try and upgrade every single instance much less uh final final steps on all those where |
| 1:27:52 |
we've been able to remove teleric you can proudly say that it's out I think this is fantastic |
| 1:27:58 |
is everyone else excited about this uh this release uh have you already started |
| 1:28:03 |
jumping into two upgrades or is everyone holding their breath for a few moments first |
| 1:28:11 |
[Music] I've jumped in with both feet I'm kind of wondering though what's left for |
| 1:28:17 |
version 10. this was so so much stuff and now we get to dream a little bit |
| 1:28:24 |
um a lot of 10 I know that's already you know on the radar is removing a lot of |
| 1:28:30 |
uh the apis that were marked uh for for deprecation |
| 1:28:36 |
um to go away in 10 so a lot of that will be you know obviously things that are behind the scenes that you won't really |
| 1:28:42 |
see you know or feel but that should help in other ways uh with that as well |
| 1:28:49 |
removing dependencies things like that um but now we get to Dream a Little Bit what's what what what do people want |
| 1:28:56 |
um I know one of the hot items is a new theme by default uh to the in BNN and |
| 1:29:05 |
that's a uh a philosophical battle uh with those that are within that of what |
| 1:29:13 |
that needs to look like um everybody has their uh their opinions on on on what's the right way to to go |
| 1:29:20 |
so I think we'll probably be a quick thing yeah I'd like to start with that I'd like to |
| 1:29:26 |
nominate Aaron for the next theme creation using Tailwind as a dependency |
| 1:29:33 |
did you hear the progress that we're removing dependencies do you think maybe |
| 1:29:40 |
is that on purpose [Laughter] no and honestly that's I mean in my |
| 1:29:47 |
opinion you know and this is where you know the philosophical battle comes in a lot of times it's like I I'm all for |
| 1:29:53 |
that except for when it comes to design right you know I |
| 1:29:58 |
if you could leverage a framework to get there quicker and more consistently consistently than I'm I'm a little more |
| 1:30:05 |
for it now by default you know the current well the human DNN is uh |
| 1:30:10 |
bootstrap dependent but it's stuck at bootstrap three and we're on bootstrap five it is well so you know it's time |
| 1:30:18 |
for an update and or Tailwind or nothing |
| 1:30:23 |
um you one of the things you have to have different ones you know and to have |
| 1:30:28 |
different options available nothing sounds yes there you go that's what I was going to say why not have multiple |
| 1:30:35 |
options and there's obviously got to be one that's on when you do a fresh install but you go into themes and a you |
| 1:30:43 |
haven't included uh Dark Knight and gravity and zillion so you've got you |
| 1:30:48 |
know the default one and oh look you've got two other options the same exact thing now in Tailwinds the same exact |
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thing now with root trap five love it and I love the idea of having one that |
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has no framework you know so like yeah he's a fan of yeah some people are a fan |
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of that you know just pure CSS or um just yeah it it really because who's |
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willing to contribute and all being on the same page with the same directive you know so I love that idea too right I |
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think it would be great to have the same exact design same exact content |
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everything but done three different ways you know or whatever |
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ways but that therein lies a bit of a problem |
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too you know it's like well by the nature of the framework itself Your Design might would be impacted a |
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little bit you know um yeah you can't achieve everything |
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in the same way so just yeah because like you know we're all sisters for |
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instance if it was designed you know in a way that was based off of a you know a bootstrap framework you know it you |
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might want to do a little bit different because like it would be harder to achieve pixel perfectness like you could with Tailwind because you have all those |
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utility classes you know so it it's easier said than done but it can be done |
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um a little bit of coordination a little bit of willingness and some uh muscle to uh crank it out |
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that's all the idea there for the themed contest I think that's kind of how this one came about a bit |
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um so that could be good um if it's open-ended it will be tough |
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because probably nobody's going to create three themes and using two Frameworks and no framework it's a lot |
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of work but having a design contest for what |
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this homepage should look like would be really great out of the box business owners we have an infinite |
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amount of time available right that's right that's right employees and interns |
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hey we'll get it done thank you Jeremy for volunteering to uh do that I'm going |
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to sign off now and you're never going to see me [Music] um |
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well great everyone I'm glad that uh glad we were able to show some of this hopefully it was helpful to you and and |
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more so than that I hope it encourages you to upgrade quickly please get her |
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done absolutely |
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I think that the pain of upgrades is lessening and listening over time and |
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that some of the hoops and that we jump through and hurdles that we'd encountered when we |
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were oh you know manually upgrading 18 and three and even four and |
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replacing files and overriding them and taking this out running it putting this |
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back in it's just gotten easier and easier as it goes and um your articles for telework |
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removal just make it so very straightforward to do step at a time not |
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difficult that's the most tedious thing we've done in ages so once you get past that everything else |
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is is smooth right that's right yeah I think the most |
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um scary thing is how many steps it's taken to learn this stuff and how much |
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easier it's gotten I still I don't know if you guys are the same way but I still look at the step by |
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step every single time because it's easy to accidentally yeah yep a step |
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um so I'm getting for someone to automate it in Powershell but it's okay to just read and follow the steps well |
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now it's automated in the DNN 911 upgrade for you so that is essentially what is happening it's literally doing |
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those things uh in there and then some so it's uh there's your time I think |
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it's related to birthdays too oh what was that Dennis I'm sorry you |
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said that I said I think it has something to do with being related to birthdays as well oh |
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[Laughter] |
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well I hope everybody has a good upgrade experience so of course if you do run into any challenges I mean I as always |
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back up your sights and test in the environment that's not production uh |
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first so you can be prepared but I hope everybody has a good experience if you don't don't just back up get good at |
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restoring yeah there you go understand the process right there's there's a couple little glitches |
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that have been found since in the this latest version any I plan for when sort |
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of a tidy up might be done yeah I know that there's quite a few issues that have been posted out there |
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Steve already on GitHub um it's uh I there's no specific time frame |
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it's whenever people have the bandwidth to be able to actually Implement fixes |
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for those things so I think as soon as those pull requests come in you know that will |
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that'll pushed along that happening quicker rather than later it's just a |
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matter of people contributing to it just everybody keep in mind there's no |
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Corporation sitting behind or anybody getting paid to do any of this so |
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um you know if anybody has a way to help one way or another you know I mean we |
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highlight one thing to kind of get people to upgrade I was personally surprised by how many critical updates |
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appeared to apply to 9.10 point whatever people need to pay attention to that |
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that it's worth upgrading security |
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yeah I think it's like 12 or 13 security bulletins with this release so and those |
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are not trivial some of them so um it matters definitely matters |
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um I was gonna say for those of you that joined after we got started uh Rodrigo |
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let's see uh feel and Alessandra Marco |
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Ahmed Benny thank you guys for attending uh hope you found it valuables good to |
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good to see your names pop up I think we should also uh get everybody |
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to try and do a round of applause for Daniel because even though he's not here it feels like he was a big part of 9 11. |
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please do absolutely everybody use your reactions on Zoom to do collapse and I'm |
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going to take a screenshot and send it to him oh my God I'm going I don't know if I'm publishable |
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uh Jesus Christ come on we got a Time disc I have to blur do not look at the boxes |
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I'll be like this yay yeah I would do a screenshot |
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there it goes I got a screenshot that's awesome did I brush my hair I don't even |
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know whatever bye okay yeah I normally stay till the end but |
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unfortunately I have to run early right now so uh love you everybody good to see |
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you I will talk to everyone again soon thank you David for an awesome run through I took a bunch of notes uh we'll |
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try and post ASAP up to the site yeah we'll do that we're we're wrapping up here anyways we'll go ahead and stop the |
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recorded session and uh Ryan thanks so much I appreciate everything you do I hope you have a better week than it's |
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been that would be awesome I'll I'll try and |
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work on that yeah thanks for joining thanks everyone |