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hello hello it's dan and dave i hope you guys are doing well and gals |
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and all you wonderful people out there in the dnn community land world |
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atmosphere existence it's been a minute since i've been on |
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air i've missed you guys i've been dreaming though i've been dreaming about |
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things to kind of content ideas you know to bring |
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to you guys um been thinking about things like cool |
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technical solutions and geeky stuff and i don't know |
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i've also been thinking about some of the really interesting and cool and |
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brilliant community members that are out there and introducing you to them because |
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i mean you may not know a lot of the people that are out there and involved in dnn |
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and i'd love an opportunity to present them to you and help you to get |
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to know them a little bit more understand a little bit more about their skills what their passions are you know one of the things about this |
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community that i love so much and i guess that's why i've stuck around really so long it's |
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beyond just a having a really cool technical solution or platform to build websites |
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off of and applications and cool stuff like that it's |
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really the way the community operates and behaves the community was kind of established on |
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this abundance principle idea where you know you just help people |
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you jump in help people you don't want anything in return for that i mean |
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now don't get me wrong there's commerce in this community i mean there are great vendors out there |
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that build incredible modules and extensions and solutions on top of dnn |
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there are really cool integrators that are out there that |
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help you as a client or help you with your clients to develop really cool solutions for |
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them i mean there are theme builders there are module builders there are just some cool |
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good stuff i mean there's all kinds of open source stuff too but you know uh back i digress |
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to get back to it the abundance principle i mean there's so many people that are willing to help |
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in this community and you know whether it's on a facebook page or a uh |
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community forum on dnacommunity.org or whether it's in the dnn open help |
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slack workspace you may not have known about that one but if you get a chance check that one |
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out do a google search on it one of the guys that is always there to try to help whether |
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he knows the answer or not i want to introduce him to you today i want you |
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if you don't know him then this will be your chance to get to know him it'll give you a chance to get to know |
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his company and what they do but if you do know him maybe you'll learn some things you didn't know about |
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it maybe he will share that he does something and his company does something |
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that you had no idea that they did anyway that guy always jumps in with |
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either an answer or tries to go and figure out an answer i mean i don't think the guy ever sleeps |
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honestly uh he's always there like responding to stuff so anyways without further ado i wanted to |
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introduce you all to jeremy ferentz jeremy welcome i'm so |
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glad you're hanging out with me on this fine saturday evening |
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thanks dave i am honored to be here and a little overwhelmed with that uh |
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expansive introduction i don't i don't think i can uh well we'll see how it goes |
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you're such a humble guy you're so you know i'm i'm just here to help i don't know |
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much you know but like i mean my gosh like 40 of the whole answers that get answered |
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out there is coming from you dude like you're bringing it you're bringing the heat |
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i mean what what drives you um to be involved in this community jeremy i |
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mean tell us a little bit about yourself and kind of a little bit about the history uh that you have with dnn and |
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why you're even around still like what i mean what is it that drives you |
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yeah that's uh wow |
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that's far back so um |
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playing with it was probably around 2004 or five dnn4 maybe and um was working at a company |
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kind of getting frustrated with the whole uh boss type thing and decided to do my own company |
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and at first we were doing other things dnn wasn't the focus of the company but |
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by around 2011 dnn was front and center we were building websites doing advanced designs |
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um doing a lot of really interesting stuff we went to dnn world in 2012. |
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how's it going so yeah i had a lot of fun there so uh the name of the company's security |
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we're based out of champaign illinois always have been here so far and um |
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floated between eight and 11 people over the years since around 2012. |
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the majority of our projects are on dnn but we do all kinds of we've done apps we've |
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database work hosting um wide variety |
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expression engine um there was a drupal one once victim of drupal getting by the way and |
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uh all kinds of stuff so tend to have fun a lot of good employees here and |
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um it helps not having a boss for me at least and i try to make sure my employees |
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don't feel like they need to go start their own company appreciate you |
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explaining that and i i'll go ahead and apologize we are having a few little audio glitches here and there |
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i apologize i think something is taxing my machine even though nothing else is running except for this but |
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uh i apologize for that but i'm going to let it roll because um there's still pieces of this that you'll |
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you'll you'll get a lot of value out of um jeremy i'm going to uh flip over and |
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show your company website here and um you were explaining a little bit about |
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kind of how you know your humble beginnings and stuff with that and your team and all that you know your website out |
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here uh says that you do kind of kind of a wide range of things um everything from website design you |
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know and e-commerce and content management solutions and mobile website design that's a lot |
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so like to tell me a little about do you have a sweet spot or is it kind of just really all across |
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the board and you guys do it all um less ecommerce lately but otherwise |
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all of those are still prominent hosting has become more lately |
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and apps has returned back to the front we used to do mobile apps back in the windows phone days |
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and um all the way back in 2011 we were doing very early phone apps uh that went by the wayside but it's |
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come back pretty strong lately and um so yeah not a lot has changed we |
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do a lot of different things uh |
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yeah all four of those are there except e-commerce that's not as much lately okay so so now you guys don't you're not |
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focused solely on dnn though right it looks like you also dabbled in some other content management |
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platforms there as well i mean would you say that dnn is your kind of main focus or your choice |
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uh tool choice where is it just kind of you know in the mix with a bunch of other great tools as well dnn's |
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clearly the first choice it's probably in the 50 to 60 percent range on projects still |
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wordpress is second and then then things just get weird goes all over |
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the map it depends on the type of client if it's the type of client we like and they want to work |
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in a technology that we feel we can do well in we'll jump right in so um gotcha |
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i noticed uh i noticed drupal here uh are you do you have clientele that's in the |
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educational sector or is that kind of the prominent use of that or is it |
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other other types as well no that was exactly where the one drupal site was |
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same thing and then joomla same thing university of illinois yeah |
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that was their big jim lock proctor somehow they've gotten a a fairly large part of that market share |
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uh there so usually see that pop up and everything so so you said dnn's kind of your |
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your tool of choice when it comes to uh sites and everything are you using dnn |
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in any like obscure ways these day or is it uh pretty pretty standard kind of web |
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website focus and application focus on on there we've got some interesting ones um like |
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odd stuff too we use dnn as a tool to uh pull information |
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off the factory floor there's this software called wonderware and dnn |
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reaches into wonderware pulls out all these obscure tag values and then we use |
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sql to sexy and a few other things to build them into nice reports that people can log into and look up |
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online this is for a big company owenscorning and it also sends really nicely |
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formatted emails at 6am and 6pm we also have dnn feeding information |
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into apps so that people can get into dnn on the back end and edit and add new information change faqs |
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change locations change providers and the app updates instantly because it's all feeding from |
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nice web api stuff like that nice |
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so so not not your standard cookie cutter kind of uh usage of it there yeah no i like the |
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unusual projects anything that uh has a lot of data tends to be my favorite so nice nice |
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nice now i mean i i hate to like single out a few here but i do remember |
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back i don't know how many years ago it was you know you guys were involved in the bell website the |
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racing helmets company is there anything you can kind of talk about that uh publicly and some |
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of the things that you guys did there or yeah that was one of our favorite e-commerce projects |
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we built that on hot cakes one of the interesting things that happened there though is they |
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changed their commerce the stuff that was running in-house on |
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their their systems to some company in europe who i am |
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the name is escaping me right now eventually hotcakes couldn't adapt and |
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there was already a magento i think it was magento |
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adapter so they about 18 months ago completely switched web platforms so |
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oh really okay yeah it's very sad to see them go favorite client uh still talk to the |
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owner on occasion so uh sad pandas but that's okay that happens uh companies uh |
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evolve and their needs uh changed so they they have to adapt to them but i remember that being a pretty big |
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uh big site for you guys it was there was so many cool things on there we |
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actually had a company in canada photograph the helmet so they could rotate in 3d it was cool stuff that is really neat |
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i jeremy i'm going to kind of hit the rewind button here just a little bit and like what what was your first |
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introduction to to dnn and why did it stand out to you |
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wow that's hard i was really interested in microsoft stuff because i had uh i'd come from the |
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amiga community if anybody knows what that is all the way back in the 80s i was using a product called superbase |
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as the amiga went away and i was forced to get into windows for a job i was at the next thing was microsoft access that |
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led to microsoft sql that led to e-commerce projects on |
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does anyone remember site commerce 3.0 from microsoft site commerce wow that's that's a blast |
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from the past so those things uh through about 2002 |
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2003 were in my past and sql was my favorite tool at the time and |
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website started coming up at a new job i had in 2004 and i tried dnn because it was on |
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asp.net and it seemed to have all the toys that i liked and was interested in and i was |
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doing stuff in visual studio so i thought i could edit it and change it and never did that but anyhow that's where |
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dnn started and then it drifted away for a little bit as i started the company but then we came back around to it and it has been |
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the center of things for quite a while did you start um your company to be |
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a dnn shop or do you even consider yourself really a dnn shop or are you more of a you know |
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just an agency that happens to use dnn uh how do you kind of view view your |
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company hard to answer uh somewhere in between those two views um it was not started to be a dnn shop |
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that's for sure we but you know we always went with the tools that helped us build the products that |
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we wanted to do the things we wanted to accomplish for our clients and sure enough dnn kept being there |
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when we needed it so and we got good at it that's cool um i'm gonna ask you to tell me a little |
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bit about your your team here because you i mean i don't know if this is uh up to date or anything but uh you have |
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how many people in the company now and kind of what roles are they seven or |
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eight uh it's oh wow look you my picture didn't load look at that i shall reload |
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it again because i think that's actually a blimp on my side that i did sorry about that |
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all right this this is out of date um i'm there the big picture in the upper |
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left oh you're the coffee drinker dude okay oh coffee brewer there you are |
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nice um most of these people are still here in some way or other uh the person in |
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the upper right josh is one of our lead front-end developers really great at all kinds of |
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javascript and css and does all kinds of interesting things and adds a lot of those elegant interactive |
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animations to our projects that really makes them feel modern kiddo there uh he he decided to invite |
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his uh kid to the shoot huh you have no idea that kid is amazing that's awesome |
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love it i love seeing that uh two of the key people are not even in there we've got |
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uh one of the lead developers now is jared okay he's been here i think over a year |
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and there's also uh designer brittany she's not up there but um |
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john's still around part-time lucia there in the middle right kind of an intern who turned into an |
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ongoing part-time employee bottom rows kind of the |
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businessy side of things accounting finance uh the two lower left ones aren't here |
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anymore okay so tell me this because um |
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like i like to ask this when when you've got a company that's got so many you know |
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people and and you know diverse team members and different skill sets for bringing like what what stands out in your mind |
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and like if you if you were to put yourself in the shoes of somebody you know a client that's looking for |
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a team to work with why why would they choose you guys and you |
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know what what is it that you would bring to the table that you think offers a bit of a unique experience for |
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the client that would really set you apart from some of the others |
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enthusiasm and experience come to mind first a lot of the times when we meet with clients |
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we have stuff to show off that is very similar to their needs so um pretty easy to |
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get ingratiated with those types of things and show them the pieces and parts of the project they want to build |
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we've already done something like it before so the experience comes into play and i think when we show off those |
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things and talk about them with clients the enthusiasm comes across hard not to be enthusiastic we do we do |
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a lot of fun stuff i noticed at the top it was talking a bit about your your process |
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uh well i'm sorry it was another page that i was looking at where was that at um talking a little bit about you |
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yeah your process here we see this on a lot of agency sites |
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right you know it's it's the discover you know plan build you know that kind of thing is you know it's it's |
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all cute and everything but like is this something you live eat breathe in the company |
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um and if so like how does that translate you know for a client and their |
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experience with you on a project uh it's interesting all those things are still there and i have to tell you one |
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little note about those four boxes i tried so hard to get them all to start with the letter d |
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it was discover deploy develop and for some reason i never got |
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four of them and so it went back to this but yeah all those pieces are part of it |
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and they come across each project's different though some of them require a lot of learning a lot of new stuff some projects require |
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quite a bit of creativity and design um it's different every time |
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not not many are easy that's one common thing no no they're not i mean and and each |
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project has a unique aspect to it as well right you know it's it it's never just i just need a website |
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you know just something simple you know yeah it's interesting too because some of the ones i'm personally most proud of |
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or have the coolest database work uh aren't good ones to show off they don't look good you know no one |
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paid for any design work and nobody ever was interested in the public side of things |
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so yeah that's that's interesting how sometimes you can get some of these incredibly |
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complex or interesting ways to solve these these technical challenges |
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but it's hard to show it off but it disgusts it doesn't it doesn't look great or whatever um now |
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do you do you consider your agency a design agency i mean like |
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are you kind of a traditional agency or would you consider yourself a little more of a development firm i mean i know you're |
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tech heavy and all that as well but i mean like what what do you see yours i think that's |
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changed dramatically in the last five years i'd say in 2015 we were really pushing towards being a |
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design and creative agency and i think now where we stand especially the last 18 months |
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that is a huge part of it but i think we're much more in the squarely in the middle |
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with development playing a major role in it a lot of data work a lot of complex websites that need more |
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than just a modern or fancy design really good content organization is very |
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important lately and some of our projects are building under the hood stuff for search engines |
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and structured data that stuff gets really interesting now you mentioned structured data so |
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like i know you guys do a lot of work with uh one of our open source projects in the community called uh 2sxc |
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or too sexy as a lot of people affectionately call it tell me a little bit about how that is a |
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part of your um your thought process when you approach a website i mean is that always |
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a component or is it just depends or uh you know what how does that play a |
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role and you might want to explain structured content to those that may not know about what structured content is wow me |
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trying to explain structured content it's one of those under the hood things |
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that people mostly don't see but the most obvious one people hear about or run into is open graph so facebook |
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when you post a url to a website facebook wants that tile that card to |
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look nice they have a certain size for the photo and the headline and then the little bit of text |
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that they put in play those used to just kind of be plucked |
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off the website willy-nilly and they used to try really hard to figure it out but nowadays |
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that information is under the hood it's called open graph if you go look at the view source of a page you can go find it nowadays |
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but anyhow that's a good example of structured data but there's a lot more to it google is using it now in micro |
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data formats and all these schema.org references that change every three weeks by the way |
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and putting that information underneath can really enhance search engine results |
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which is important to not all but quite a few of our clients lately we have some businesses where |
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um you know they got really exhausted with the world of adwords and spending money for clicks |
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and stuff and um we tended to lean much more towards the organic search and |
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we got really good at um taking the key phrases for how they wanted to be found out there or what |
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they thought their customers were searching for and finding the different ways to make those |
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pages on the site and customize landing pages uh get them into the search results get |
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them in the top ten i mean one of the most one of the ones i'm most proud of is the fact that we locally |
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i personally fought to get us with the phrase website design champagne |
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with a curity coming up first i did it in 2012 |
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and other than a few weeks we have not lost our number one position ever since |
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then yeah and that's against some really local talented companies with some very |
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different people working there and um it's uh anyhow kind of proud of |
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that yeah how does how does specifically too sexy fit into that uh equation a bit |
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um actually i got to give credit to uh aaron lopez who was one of your previous |
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interview people um he put together a little open graph sample |
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into sexy and uh we liked it so much we kind of took it apart put it back together |
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added json ld expanded the open graph stuff and we've just very recently built it |
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into a tool that's already in three websites putting structured data under the hood |
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and giving the users because of how easy too sexy can make things the ability to edit the information |
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and add it if it's needed to just about any page on the site it's still probably should be considered |
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alpha but it's coming along quickly and it's a lot of fun to work on too |
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see people that's what i'm talking about this community i mean here it is jeremy |
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heard aaron lopez say something about open graph and lopez did a little blog just because he |
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wanted to share the goodness with everybody that he had been figured out or a video i can't remember what he did maybe he did both |
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and then he came on and we did a little interview he talked us through all that and gave us a walkthrough of how to do it and then here it is |
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somebody picked up on that and made it better for their purposes you know so it's like it's just just |
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keep feeding each other so like come on jump in the pool the water's fine let's let's have some let's have a good |
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time here so jeremy let's uh i'm gonna uh |
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get off the website there for just a little bit and just chat a little bit i kind of did it in backwards i was gonna talk a little bit about uh dna and say |
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oh yeah you're a donkey you didn't did you talk about your ducky when you were talking about the company |
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no no you gotta talk about the ducky you gotta tell me about the ducky well that's it's got a just short |
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interesting story there was an article years ago i forget someone famous wrote but it was talking about |
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um code review and uh one of the things i picked up from the article actually wasn't me i it |
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was a ex-employee here was that you didn't actually need to talk to another human sometimes you just needed to talk to |
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someone so we ended up with all of us have these rubber duckies at our desk and if we wanted to you can |
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sit there and talk the problem through with your rubber ducky |
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and uh it's fascinating and amazing because most of the time you will arrive at the solution |
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about two-thirds of the way through explaining it to the rubber ducky because the things you |
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say sometimes have the solution right there in front of you and you just needed to say it the right way you know |
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it happens all the time when you're working on something you show someone where you're stuck and how you got there and before they can |
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they're doing things like oh i got it now this the reason i'm giggling a little |
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bit well i had no idea for one that asking you know pressing you about the ducky was going to lead to such a profound |
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uh technique you know a method that people could use but that's really cool but i'm giggling |
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because i was just having this conversation with another member of the community uh gosh i think it was yesterday uh |
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actually we have this conversation often that we'll just explain something to |
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each other and in the process you know we figure out our own you know thing sometimes it's the other person that |
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sees you know the the problem but so many times just verbalizing it and walking through |
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like you were explaining to someone whether there's there's a human there or a ducky um or the new ideas come about light |
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bulbs go off all the time yeah that's that's actually fantastic |
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now i'll never not think about your ducky uh when it comes to doing that |
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now do you take it in the bathtub as well okay that's too much information i'm sorry um yes okay |
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oh man so like what what is it that's exciting you about |
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you know the community these days or dnn platform is there anything that's like standing |
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out to you right now yeah dnn itself the progress that |
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they've been making towards what's eventually going to be version 10 [Music] there's so many things happening that |
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are useful i mean there's been there's been some odd discussions about whether or not dnn |
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will ever be a net core project and that's probably never going to happen but |
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the way it exists right now and the way the community has come back and taken |
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over the project since dnn pulled back from it all is literally fantastic |
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it has made it fun and interesting it's made an excellent solution performance has gone |
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through the roof bugs have gotten fixed it's really amazing what's going on out here and then you add to that the community |
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itself and products like too sexy which have added kind of a swiss army |
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knife of tools to what we can do and um it just got really fun again |
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it is you know i i've actually been in the community since it started and i remember back you |
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know back in the back in the early days when things were just amazing as the biggest you know and |
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awesomeness you know community and platform and also i mean this is back before really |
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you know we had the days of github and these slack tools and stuff like that |
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you know we were all kind of talking through forms and stuff like that but it was man exciting |
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everybody was dreaming up new ideas and new ways to to do things and you know that fizzled |
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for a while and i mean gosh jeremy even to the point to where |
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a lot of people were asking well is dnn dying you know or is the community dying i |
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mean there was there was some evidence that kind of led us to to that thought process you |
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know or made us question but you know for those that have stuck around you can't |
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not see the resurgence now you know the upswing and i don't know the excitement |
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and even people that were involved way back in the day i've seen a few of them come back |
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come back around you know that they've been kind of watching and that's exciting it's exciting seeing |
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my gosh we had a lot of new blood at the latest uh dnn summit which was a virtual conference |
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you attended that right yeah i was just gonna bring that up the feeling from that conference and the |
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number of people that showed up even the people that have been around for a while were surprised |
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at how much was going on there the types of presentations and how new |
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everything felt right was there anything at that uh conference that |
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um that was a big takeaway for you beyond just the general excitement stuff |
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like that or any new interesting content or conversations or anything like that |
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that kind of stuck out i i've slept a few times but since then i don't remember now it's been a minute |
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it was quite a bit i mean it was exciting seeing uh daniel mettler's presentation you know he really did all that uh |
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angular stuff in a way that just didn't even seem possible before and he solved |
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every darn thing and demoed it and it's a great little app to look at |
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and learn about architecture and how things work i was really impressed by that |
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that's cool so there was everything really there from geeky stuff like that all the way up to |
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like marketing stuff and you know design kind of uh content was kind of cool well |
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um jeremy i you know i don't want to keep it too late tonight or anything and i want to kind of |
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wrap things up a bit but like if you were to |
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run into someone new that was looking to build websites or you know have a backend for a mobile app |
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or something like that and you knew that they did not they had not heard of dnn like what |
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would you say to them uh to to encourage them uh to check it out and and all that i |
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mean what would be with your words of wisdom to them or how would you approach |
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them it's all just by showing off the big |
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thing we run into is people don't know about the technology one of our biggest secrets is |
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i would tell you that 80 to 90 percent of our customers are completely unaware that their website is dnn |
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but when you get to demo it and show off what can happen what it can do what we can do with it and bring to the |
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game it gets really impressive really fast we win people over very easily usually takes a monitor and |
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some talking and some demoing and but that tends to be pretty easy and |
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really shines especially when you have such weird stuff going on in the world i mean |
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wordpress is really interesting and i don't you know i don't think we should spend much time talking about it but it's an |
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interesting place there's people who demand wordpress and then you go show them the new gutenberg interface |
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one person say well that's not work that's what i know this actually is |
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exactly building and find out they only ever saw wordpress |
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with divi so they don't understand what this elementor thing is and you know it's almost like there's this |
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set of four or five products there and it's confusing for people and they don't know what wordpress means anymore and then you get into the |
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hacking and okay so i'm going to get off that subject now but |
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it's really it's the swiss army knife thing i mentioned before that's that's the big deal for us and we have |
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lots of good things to show off and it's i'm hard-pressed lately to find something that dnn doesn't do well |
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with a little bit of effort sometimes but usually right out of the box that's great so like um how would people |
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get in touch with you or your company if they were looking to |
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to engage potentially uh with you in a project or anything well what is the best way for them to reach |
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uh slack would be great but no um reach out to the website we answer the phone |
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um probably at least nine hours a day some a real human is going to pick up the phone um |
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emails you can reach us at uh info acuity.com like most companies uh there's a form on |
35:21 |
the website you can get to us from there okay excellent well that's good and you |
35:26 |
mentioned slack um i probably should or we should mention uh what we're talking about i mean we mentioned it a |
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little bit earlier but a lot of people may not even know about it i know there's a lot of people in it but there is there's multiple slack |
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workspaces out there um related to the dna community but there's one in particular that's a great |
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resource to go to and get involved for just general helping others with things and that's open help it's dna open help |
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but the website would be open help dot slack dot com and uh it's free |
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just uh join and it's uh you know if you're familiar with slack it's easy to get set up and get involved |
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there and participate and then of course don't forget about dnn community uh |
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there's the discussion forums and all that out here and it's a great resource for the community |
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as well and you can find jeremy on |
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openhealth.slack.com uh he's usually lingering there at the wee hours of the morning and |
36:30 |
uh late at night as well so jeremy i really appreciate |
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you uh what was that just pull up what is one of our latest projects to show off yeah absolutely yeah let's do it |
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what is it cool home cool home page go to cu |
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aerospace.com did i type that right oh yeah yeah okay |
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oh this is dnn oh yeah you gotta love the big video backgrounds |
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huh yeah we're shying away from them but it was such an obvious choice here |
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so but they're a small local company that actually works in the |
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aerospace industry and a lot of people there overlapping to the university of illinois and |
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just a lot of really completely |
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lots of stuff i get to see read about and see cool photographs |
37:35 |
that is cool sexy project on there is the publications uh i get to |
37:42 |
really publication oh okay there it is here i got to really dive into the way |
37:49 |
sciency publications are published and shared around so the formatting here is very specific |
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and all the different data and dois and anyhow really interesting and all built |
38:03 |
with too sexy and lots of cool toys under the hood making it really easy to edit and update |
38:11 |
awesome so that that was all built in uh and too sexy there then yep okay excellent |
38:19 |
that's great so that's a that's really good case you know today really for structured content right you had a very specific format that |
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that things needed to be in with specific data for certain fields and requirements for those and you were able |
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to leverage that data structure to visualize it as as you needed to do that |
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yep and 260 made it really easy because as the data got older back into the 90s |
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pieces were missing or formatted differently so there's lots of exceptions in the code that elegantly |
38:53 |
handle all that stuff and just keep it all looking good no matter what yes that's a little bit different than |
38:59 |
some of the others i've seen uh more recent stuff yeah |
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yeah well fantastic i'm glad yeah i should have asked you that earlier if you had a site you kind of wanted to show off and stuff |
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that's appreciated a different video every time you go to the home page i |
39:16 |
like this one i could sit there and watch that for a while |
39:22 |
well jeremy i really appreciate you taking the time to chat and introduce people you know to |
39:28 |
yourself and your company and explain a little bit about the services and how how people may want to |
39:34 |
engage with you guys uh to do some stuff i know there's much more you could share about all that but i really appreciate |
39:40 |
you giving us the overview and taking the time to uh to chat and you |
39:45 |
know share your skills we're going to get you on here and to do some cool techy stuff at some point right |
39:50 |
yep that'd be great awesome well everybody i hope you have a great |
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one uh come and join in with the fun in the dnn community uh stay up |
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to date through the dncommunity.org dnn open help slack channel dnm platform |
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on github if you're a coder and looking to contribute there's also a dna community |
40:14 |
organization on github and jeremy i forgot to pull it up you guys actually have a github presence out |
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here as well so you guys go check it out it's just github.com slash accurity |
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and um you can see a few little projects that they've got out there that may be able to help you in your |
40:31 |
your endeavors in the communi in the dnn space so thanks and i hope you have a great |
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evening or morning whatever it is it is when you're watching this how was |
40:42 |
that for professionalism jeremy [Laughter] |
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any parting words um just you know uh don't get hung up on |
40:55 |
ocd it's called ocg and it's obsessive compulsive guidance |
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and it's one of our business principles here any obsessive compulsive things can help |
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you with data and guide you in your business that was fantastic we should end on that |
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okay i'm gonna regret throwing that in there but i know i love it that's awesome |
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have a great evening everyone bye |