"Hello, Hello!" with Aderson Oliveira

Jan 16, 2021

SUMMARY

Today we have the privilege and honor to reconnect with a true O.G., the DNN Hero, our DNN Deskpal, the S010 Coder, the one we could always go to for a nice DNN chat and the latest and greatest in DNN news. He’s a teacher to the core, and my good friend, Aderson Oliveira. Hello, hello!

Aderson Oliveira
https://mynameisnotanderson.com
https://twitter.com/adersonoliveira
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adersonoliveira

DNN Hero
https://www.dnnhero.com
https://www.youtube.com/c/dnnhero

DeskPal
https://deskpal.com

The Solo Coder
https://solocoder.com
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheSoloCoders

DNN Platform
https://github.com/dnnsoftware/Dnn.Platform

DNN Community
https://dnncommunity.org

 

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0:02 [Music]
0:12 but hello hello it's dnn dave and i hope everybody's doing well today today we have the privilege
0:20 and honor to reconnect with the true og the dnn hero
0:26 our dnn desk pedestal the solo coder the one we could always go to for a nice
0:34 dnn chat for the latest and greatest in dnn news
0:40 he's a teacher to the core and my good friend patterson oliveira hello hello
0:48 and welcome madison hello hello dave it's very good to be here man you don't know
0:54 how much i miss you in everybody know oh man it's so good to see you because like you know it used to
1:00 be like we could depend on like what at least two or three times visiting you
1:05 during the week now it's like where is addison yeah
1:12 yeah we we we we're doing i mean we're doing the the monthly catch-up and then there were
1:18 the the subgroups that i was part of so we were i was always around
1:24 quite but participative as well but i was always so it was always good to i mean i thought
1:30 it was great and i still consider myself you know an honorary member of the dining community
1:36 and again i mean i love the community though now we have one matter of housekeeping
1:43 here before we really dive in patterson for people that do not know you
1:50 this is very important my name is not what
1:57 not anderson you know you know what i mean this this site i have it i don't know for so many years
2:03 i've never ever changed much but any anytime that someone pronounced my name incorrectly
2:11 i had the pleasure to send a link to these sites and again i take that as a joke and it's just uh
2:17 you know something that we can't we can have a good laugh about you know
2:22 it's it's uh it's great i thought this was wonderful because people they would always mess up your name
2:28 right they'd always call you anderson and you could see it's like okay it's fun at first
2:34 but and then you put the sign up i was like oh this is just brilliant
2:40 and the thing is that i was never mad about that but again i use that as a hook as an
2:47 angle you know yeah exactly so good to see you i mean what what in
2:53 the world have you been up to lately uh what's in your world you know what let
2:59 me tell you this dnn has never left never left my word so i still do
3:05 dnn day in day out but on top of that i'm a teacher i'm an instructor
3:13 so just to give an idea next week i'm starting the new semester and i have right now
3:22 165 students in line for coding for programming for
3:28 for for c sharp you know we start with c sharp it starts with the base of c sharp you know wow so i mean
3:36 you're still you're still kind of focusing on coding and really i mean i've always thought of you
3:42 as a teacher man you know it's it's kind of kind of cool uh that you're
3:47 it seems like you're you're you're finding your your element there you know what it's when you say that
3:54 because i was a teacher being in here it's all about teaching you
3:59 but it never really i don't know i never internalized that
4:05 and that caught me out of guards two and a half years ago and i said man that's really who i am
4:13 you know i like teaching that's what i do now in different formats different ways but that's what i do so so what you're
4:20 doing now is what is it more formal kind of teaching
4:26 so it is more formal so uh i work in a one of my activities let's put this way
4:32 from professional activities is working in a local college so it's uh they have all kinds of tracks from a
4:39 technology standpoint i handle the people that are starting with coding
4:45 and i do that vice sharp i also do that a little bit with nodes as well
4:51 but c sharp is still the the way to go and there are some more advanced courses
4:56 that i go through mvc and i go through you know web apis and oh all that jazz so so in a way i
5:04 reconnected deeply with coding because my time during dna here really was not deeply coding
5:12 it was more of administration set up configuration but again when i went to college to
5:19 teach at in a local college 2018 i had to reconnect with my coding bases and
5:26 i found a new uh a new passion for coding again so that's what i am that's so cool do
5:34 you just out of curiosity do you get to utilize dnn kind of in your teaching these days or is it uh
5:43 more i don't know i mean i guess you're teaching these fundamentals and so forth so much you
5:50 know that it's not really in context of a larger scale kind of implementation but
5:57 that's correct it's not i i mentioned about dna in the first class i always bring no dna
6:03 here and what i've done there but no there's it's it's a very
6:09 introductory class that is not doesn't give me the chance to
6:14 to do something like you know to include something like dnn uh in the mix um i may i may bring that
6:21 up at some point but it does not allow me to include that for instance this semester it's
6:26 programming two so they're still working through classes with
6:31 um you know polymorphism interfaces and this kind of stuff you know
6:37 man like oh let me google that what does that mean [Laughter]
6:43 that's great man that's so great well um i i know you're accustomed to being on the other
6:50 side of these videos right you know you're the usually the interviewer
6:55 not the interviewee so how does that feel i have to restrain myself because
7:02 i like i like to talk i like to you know keep going and going and going
7:08 and i ramble a lot so i really try to make things short and sweet
7:13 so it doesn't bug you as my host that much all right i don't think you can do
7:19 anything to bug me friend you ramble on i so i'm going to ask you
7:24 a question because i mean like believe it or not there are probably people in the dna community right now
7:30 that don't know who you are so like tell me a little bit about yourself
7:37 your history like how did you start working with dnn i mean it was many
7:43 years ago i know but like how did that all happen what was the story behind that so let me try not to bore you to death
7:50 but back 2006 i was working for a company in toronto canada
7:56 and they commissioned a report from pete from pricewater
8:04 pricewaterhousecoopers something no pws the commissioner reports for pws to come
8:11 up with the right solution for their cms needs and back then 2006
8:19 because we were a microsoft shop they pointed out to dnn dnn back then was the nn4
8:26 so i i was the manager of a group of developers of about 20
8:32 developers and they gave me the job to get to know dnn understand dnn and
8:40 and be able to implement dna within this network of professions that they had
8:45 and that's where i get to know a little bit about dna that's where i got to initially let's be
8:52 honest initially hate dnn of course of course as any good dnner
8:59 you start hating but then very quickly after that you start loving it and you get you know to know
9:06 the the community and it's a passion that you know what's there's never
9:11 a rupture you know but but that's how i i started that is that is cool i i don't know if
9:17 i've ever heard that so i you know it's funny because i feel like you have been in the dna community
9:24 forever but it seems like it really started about what four years into or three or four years into it and
9:30 uh really for for the life of dna i'm speaking yeah
9:36 uh so i started using 2006 but actually i was not active in the
9:43 community until 2010 so i was under the radar i was just a
9:49 consumer uh a passive participant of the community from 2006 to 2010
9:55 but in 2010 i started dna hero i started my own business and then in here was a way for me
10:03 to not only to get to know dna but to expose what i knew about dnn but it became a virtual cycle as
10:10 the more i put out there the more opportunities show up to me as a consequence and i needed that
10:16 because that's when i went solo you know so you were let me guess you were
10:22 reading blogs from mitch sellers you were uh you were reading a post on
10:29 dna creative and responses from mr joe craig and scott wilkinson and
10:36 you know somebody you know and all that you you were because i was in that world too for so
10:42 long of just i'm just a user i'm just a consumer i'm trying to find my way
10:48 so yeah but then and and and reading books as well looking at
10:55 the books and going to the events but again very quietly in the back and just
11:01 looking at people i remember the first one that i had really a connection with was uh tweet keller
11:09 and so again it was a consumer for the first few years but then 2010 i started to put out there
11:16 to produce it so not only to consume but to produce and again i started to to join the conversations on twitter to
11:23 join the the the forums as well and again because video is a is a very
11:30 visual medium you start to get some well visibility and that's that's how
11:36 things started there in 2010 so at some point you something clicked and you you
11:43 decided to kind of go into a business because you've had several businesses over the years i
11:49 think in the dnn space what what what made you kind of transition that
11:55 was it more of a comfort of or knowledge of dnn and realizing that you you know there was a place for you
12:01 to fill a void there or what was it that kind of transitioned you to that
12:07 so with dining hero i start to put to get some projection there and that brought projects but
12:15 you know you know how is the life of projects no it's very it's very demanding it's very you know
12:21 you focus on a project now when you have the the ups and downs and the starving artists type of things so
12:28 i i said you know what how can i make this business a little bit more predictable
12:34 a little bit more sustainable and and back around 2013 14
12:41 i decided to search for how to what is that i think it was how to productize a service
12:48 business and i came across this company in australia that was doing something very
12:56 interesting with wordpress they were for a fixed monthly fee they were supporting their
13:04 their clients on wordpress sites and i said you know what there's nothing like that on the dna
13:09 space so how about i bring a similar offering that with a fixed monthly fee you have a
13:17 supporting you have professional support in your website your dna website and that's what i did back then 2013-14
13:25 and i still run this business not very not very actively to be quite
13:31 honest but i still have many many clients that i support on a daily basis not only myself but i have people
13:37 that work with me as well and again it's still going again i'm not actively promoting the
13:43 business anymore but i still have a lot of clients from basketball
13:48 it's great because like i haven't seen anybody that are to articulate this type of service in this way uh in the community
13:56 so i know that's been a big help to a lot of people even even agencies i believe or other companies
14:02 that are servicing clients that you've been able to help with this this kind of uh model as well right
14:07 yep and again it's it's going for what now for five six
14:13 years now and today i was working with some of those you know every single day
14:18 i have something in that support that i need to have a look take care beyond that sometimes goes beyond the
14:24 capabilities of the team that i have also working behind desk power yeah and i was going to say you've got a
14:30 really intelligent team that knows dnn as well behind you that's supporting this as well now are are you still
14:37 supporting wordpress as well on on this stuff or is it still focused mainly on dna
14:44 we we do have some dna some we do have some wordpress clients yes so it's a mix of wordpress and dnn but the
14:52 focus was really always dnn but yes there are some wordpress clients yeah that's great so
14:59 it's good to know that's still alive and kicking so you know for those of you that don't know about this i know you're not promoting it and everything but hey
15:05 you know go check it out if you need some help with your dna insider some i mean everything from administration to
15:12 uh content updates and things like that they can they can definitely help and they know dnns so uh go check them out
15:19 deskpal.com so i you know one one venture that i
15:25 that that i love that you started a while back and i know it started as something different than what it is now uh
15:32 but i i found it a fascinating uh endeavor when you started doing
15:38 videos for the solo coder tell me a little bit
15:43 about that and what what you know i know you're using this for now so kind of take us from the
15:50 beginnings of it to what it is now maybe okay you know what again i have to be very careful here david because
15:57 otherwise i won't stop talking but let's try to be objective here so around
16:02 2017 2018 i john 1718 yeah i think so uh i said
16:10 you know what uh i have i have a message for coders here i have a message that
16:15 you can go beyond the code you can with your coding skills you can build
16:20 your own business as well as a solo professional or as dave for instance as as the an agent's owner you can build a
16:27 business out of your skills and i wanted to to bring it up i i felt that i had the message
16:34 to tell people about that you know i i felt the desire the drive the needs to put this out there and i started 2017
16:42 more or less i said you know what i'm gonna do a hundred days a hundred rambles talking about what i have done with my
16:50 being a coder running my own business how i did things and what what i what i thought should be as the formula
16:58 for a successful coder to do their own business and i put that out there and didn't get too much too much
17:03 traction it was just me rambling and i interviewed a few people including david as well if you have a
17:09 look there david is one of the uh people that i have interviewed for the podcast which was a mix of again
17:16 there was a podcast element and uh uh my solo voice rambling along
17:21 for 100 episodes so that was the beginning and that has transformed itself i'm
17:27 gonna i'm gonna put a pause here and see if you have anything there because again i won't stop i you know i
17:34 i know it didn't you know get the traction necessarily that you were you were hoping for or looking for but i
17:40 know it was good experience for you uh to talk about all these the subject matter but like for anybody i mean even
17:45 if you're not just a solo uh coder there's some content in here that is
17:51 just really rich i mean you you interviewed people you you talked about that i mean i don't
17:57 know how in the world you came up with all this kind of content but this is an incredible
18:03 resource so go check out the solo coder on youtube out here as well as
18:08 thesolocoder.com or solocoder.com sorry and that will have the podcast on it
18:15 yeah but that was the first incarnation okay so that incarnation
18:23 morphed and transformed into what it is right now so what it is right now again
18:30 so i i paused there i paused for one or two years and i came back around august 2019
18:37 so about a year and a half ago i started with weekly podcasts i started a video but i
18:44 said you know what i want to focus on the audio aspect so i quickly moved to audio only so right now
18:51 on a weekly basis i think that we are in episodes 75 every single week
18:59 i publish a conversation with a coder all kinds of different coders at
19:05 this point in time from front end to back ends to machine learning
19:10 to people like um handsome men to people like you know
19:18 uh again so so so many people whoever i see
19:25 that is doing something interesting on the web maybe by video maybe via blogging maybe
19:32 via course creation that is related to coding i try to talk to them i have been trying to talk to again a
19:39 lot of people a lot of my my big coding stars from the past creators of the creator of c sharp i've
19:47 been trying to get in the podcast but i have not been successful as of yet but again i have i got people that i
19:55 never thought that i would be talking to um the i'm trying to remember one of the
20:02 names again from hanzo man to oh all kinds all walks of of life here all kinds of developers
20:09 a lot of women that are doing fabulous stuff from a coding perspective front
20:16 end machine learning backhands you name it i'll talk to them so that's that's what i do
20:21 and the reason the main reason that i do this is because i love bringing voices
20:28 from the industries from the industry to my students and i bring this to my students but not
20:34 only to them i mean i open this up to anyone that wants to consume that and let me tell you
20:40 this gets a lot of traction now it's a different medium it's not video it's just
20:45 audio podcast which may transform the future but again at this point it's just audio
20:50 podcast this is great so i mean what is the cost to this anderson i mean like what what do people
20:57 have to pay to get access to this well what do you mean
21:04 so you've heard it people i mean there's some incredible content out here you know i i'll have to admit i knew you were doing
21:10 some things but i didn't know you had the frequency that you you have here this is
21:15 unbelievable every week every week and uh again 75
21:21 strong after we are done with this talk today i'm gonna go and edit the seventh sixth episode
21:28 awesome okay okay this is great you know i i that's one of those mediums that i know
21:33 a lot of people love uh driving you know to to to work or or whatever you know they're